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Old September 7, 2013, 10:14 AM
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Intel i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E Review

4670k seems to be a step backwards ^.

Power draw is always the last ditch effort on the amd slamfest but hey if money's that tight maybe get out of computers.

Again amd isn't junk!
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Old September 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
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Intel i7-4960X Ivy Bridge-E Review

4670k seems to be a step backwards ^.

Power draw is always the last ditch effort on the amd slamfest but hey if money's that tight maybe get out of computers.

Again amd isn't junk!
Again, AMD is junk.

Old process node, abysmal performance per watt, primitive tech.

You know what the real test of how good they are is?

If 4770Ks/motherboards were free, and FX-8350s/motherboard were free, know how many people would own FX-8350s?

Zero point zero. No one at all. Because the only reason anyone ever settles for an AMD processor is because they save a few bucks sometimes doing so.

That is the reality of it. The abominations that were Phenom 1 and Bulldozer have whittled their market share to a measly 15%. They're literally only selling to guys who are unfortunate enough to have an AM3 motherboard, or are shopping bargain basement where "pulls up teh intarwebz" and costs the least is the sole criteria.
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Seriously, eff off! You're not doing anyone any favours here with your 100% bias. Many of us have tried explaining to you that certain processors have their places and their uses, and situations where some people may choose one over the other. You refuse to listen to reason. You do NOT contribute to any other area of the forum, except the video card section where, once again, you slag against AMD. You obviously have some sort of agenda here. Please take it somewhere else. I, and I'm sure many others, are sick of hearing you rail against AMD. Nobody is forcing you to spend your money on a processor you don't want. The community here is simply trying to give the best advice we possible can. We recommend Intel most of the time, and AMD where it's appropriate.

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Seriously, eff off! You're not doing anyone any favours here with your 100% bias. Many of us have tried explaining to you that certain processors have their places and their uses, and situations where some people may choose one over the other. You refuse to listen to reason. You do NOT contribute to any other area of the forum, except the video card section where, once again, you slag against AMD. You obviously have some sort of agenda here. Please take it somewhere else. I, and I'm sure many others, are sick of hearing you rail against AMD. Nobody is forcing you to spend your money on a processor you don't want. The community here is simply trying to give the best advice we possible can. We recommend Intel most of the time, and AMD where it's appropriate.
Ever consider I'm trying to give the best advice I possibly can?

That advice is: No one should buy AMD CPUs anymore for gaming computers, because they are weaksauce junk with low IPC, low performance per watt, high heat, high power consumption, last gen process, last gen featured motherboards.

Pretty easy for you to dole out the "Get an 8350" advice - you have a 3770K. Obviously YOU would never buy an AMD cpu, but what the heck? They're good enough for other people right?

As for their video cards, bah. I have a 7970GHz in one of my PCs, and I've said here and elsewhere that the two 7970s were the best deal I've ever gotten on high end VGAs.

Like I said, my agenda is to give good advice, not be part of some AMD welfare program. I'll buy a couple of their parts when I get my son the new xbox and PS4. I'll buy their computer CPUs if they're ever worth buying again.

The "they're good enough, but not for me" madness must stop.
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RealRollo You have stated your opinion, now can you give the AMD bashing a rest. You have made your point. Having more than one brand choice is a good thing.
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RealRollo You have stated your opinion, now can you give the AMD bashing a rest. You have made your point. Having more than one brand choice is a good thing.
Maybe.

I wonder if intel wouldn't release better parts sooner if they were competing with themselves, and not AMD.
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I wish amd had more power cpus but in honesty what a waste. Really the cpu is f all in gaming these days.

Going from my 5800k to a 3960x in gaming both are smooth even in bf3 and what not.

oc the chip to 4.6+ and enjoy the gaming :)
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I think a gpu upgrade is best suited my need. To close up this post, is my psu enough for a 7970 upgrade. I currently own a BenqGW2750 @1920X0180.
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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._radeon,7.html

195w-209w just for the card at load not the system.

The bad news that type of psu is over rating the actual watts. The 475 version only manages 360w so if all is comparative your 725w might drop %25 also to around 550w. Cooler Master Extreme 2 475 W Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets
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This thread kind of ended up with some flaming and disagreement. My opinion of a summary for you is a 6300 is not a worth while upgrade, and an 8350 would offer a good upgrade if you accept its limitations and power consumption (some feel its worthwhile, and others do not). Switching to intel (i5/i7) would avoid the shortcomings in gaming, but cost you more (your call if its worth waiting to have the funds to do a platform swap, or stick with what you have).

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I think a gpu upgrade is best suited my need. To close up this post, is my psu enough for a 7970 upgrade. I currently own a BenqGW2750 @1920X0180.
Unfortunately CM aren't known for quality PSU. It may not have a problem with the 7970, but I wouldn't (it would be a personal call). I would go to a quality 750w for long term use of an AMD CPU and 7970. I can't find a review of the 725 version, but the review I found for the 475 version is....less than ideal. I probably wouldn't go over a HD7870 on that PSU.

Cooler Master Extreme 2 475 W Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets

EDIT:^^^Haha...beat me to the link by 1 min.
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