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Old September 17, 2013, 09:36 AM
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We aren't allowed to comment on the product being reviewed? Only the review itself? Okay then.

Nice review.
Within reason you are, but the thread had degenerated. And therefore needed a sweep to set it right again. There was nothing constructive about what was transpiring.

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Old September 17, 2013, 10:42 AM
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Or narrow it's subjective^^^.
No, it's quantitative.

Using 150% more power is a huge difference, not narrow

Look at the 720p gaming benches that actually test the cpu:
Deus Ex 34%
Dirt 3 42%
Skyrim 43%
Torchlight 31%

Only in Streetfighter is parity achieved, the other differences are huge, not narrow.

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I'm guessing you're referring to the fx9590 specifically and not blanketing AMDs entire cpu line-up with your quoted statement?
We're discussing the FX-9590 review. I would say that the FX-9590 review shows AMDs top of the line, best of best CPU is inferior to intel technology. If AMDs best does this badly, do you think their lesser offerings contain better tech?

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To be fair maybe the FX9590 sticker price should be compared with an extreme $11xx.00 intel part much like a $190 fx8350 wasn't intended to compete with a $130 i3 sticker pricing.
Actually I like how the review shows that even years old $200 intel parts are better as often as not. It really drives home my point about how inferior AMD CPUs are.

I'd actually say this review may be the single most important CPU review on the internet right now, and all anyone needs to see to make a buying choice.
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Look at the 720p gaming benches that actually test the cpu:
Deus Ex 34%
Dirt 3 42%
Skyrim 43%
Torchlight 31%

Why^^ the hell would you play a game at 720p, 1080p is a little more realistic.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-14.html

Intel could also take the crown for over priced failures at your logic, wth should intel command $1100 for it's top to be beaten by it's 4770k $340ish, it works both ways you can't pick and choose what the numbers are!
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Look at the 720p gaming benches that actually test the cpu:
Deus Ex 34%
Dirt 3 42%
Skyrim 43%
Torchlight 31%

Why^^ the hell would you play a game at 720p, 1080p is a little more realistic.
We're talking about the difference in AMD vs intel cpu tech, not how we can shift the performance results to be more skewed by GPU limits than CPU limits. CPU performance testing in games is done at low res to show cpu performance.

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http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...review-14.html

Intel could also take the crown for over priced failures at your logic, wth should intel command $1100 for it's top to be beaten by it's 4770k $340ish, it works both ways you can't pick and choose what the numbers are!
We're not talking about intel E edition chips, we're talking about this review of the AMD FX 9590. If you'd like to discuss the value proposition of those chips compared to the AMD parts, I'd be happy to do that too.
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Rollo you're enough to make a saint swear, 720p hasn't been used for a while now and if you have to you don't have either cpu so wth is the point
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Old September 17, 2013, 08:26 PM
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Rollo you're enough to make a saint swear, 720p hasn't been used for a while now and if you have to you don't have either cpu so wth is the point
Yes, how DARE I note that running games at low res with no AA/AF to shift the performance limitations to the CPU when testing CPUs is the proper way to do it.

Review sites have only been doing that for 20 years or so now- it's by no means a proven concept.

You've been listening to AMD PR too long chief:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages..._review,3.html

Notice how there's 47fps difference between a Phenom II and a 5GH 2600K at 12X10, and there is only 1fps difference at 25X16?

That's why when evaluating CPUs like we are here, low res is the way to go.
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Looks like we have a professional Troll on our hands here. AMD is always gonna be a feasible option for computing regardless of Intel dominating here or there vs which ever benchmark. In the end it's about someone's pocket book (not yours Rollo) choosing what they want to do with their money. Fortunately we can get informed, accurate, unbiased reviews on this site which I cannot say for many other sites I've attended in the past. Some of the best reviewers on the internet reside on this site and we are lucky to have them at our disposal. This is a place people can come to before spending thousands of dollars and make an informed decision and I am a firm believer in research and communication.

Top of the line AMD board 250ish
Top of the line Intel board 500+

Intel loses any of my interest right there... cya! :-)

You'll not earn any points with anyone here being a die hard intel guy who refuses to appreciate anyone's input minus your own.

Feeding the Troll:
Fact -- I could if I wanted to spend the time (which I really don't) own you with any high end AMD system at virtually ANY 1st person shooter vs the highest quality Intel system money can buy. In fact given enough time away from my wife and kid and household responsibilities I could positively make you look like a complete noob. The old song I'm used to hearing and some members here know it well "F@#(K You HADES!!!" Mad enough to possibly smash a mouse through your keyboard and wonder why you ever thought Intel would help you rule the world. I doubt Rollo you have any idea how much of a douchebag you are on this site but that's calling the kettle black isn't it.

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Yup, some of the best gamers in my BF3 clan game on all AMD systems with 8350's and 7970's. That sure as hell doesn't stop them from being much, much better gamers than me with my Intel/Nvidia setup.
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I'm getting some popcorn and cracking a cold beer for this one! Anyone want some?
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Props to clshades for his comments. Rollo you've made your point. Give it a rest. As long as the person is happy with the hardware he has and can afford, it really does not matter. Not everyone wants a particular brand or can afford hardware others can. And if a file takes an extra 45 seconds to compile I really don't care. AMD gets the job done for me. Competition is a good thing for everyone.
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