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Old June 4, 2013, 08:33 PM
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I currently run a Crosshair V Formula with a FX-8350 at 4.8GHz and is 24/7 rock-solid stable. I may have the opportunity to "upgrade" to a Maximus V Formula and 3770K soon depending on what the current owner decides. Undecided on what I will if given the chance, my dilemma is based on this.....

Both new gen consoles (PS4 and XBox One) as everyone knows are being built with AMD based x86 8 core processors and integrated graphics. Seeing how most games are ported from consoles to PC I believe that this makes the PC gaming future look pretty good. BUT... will AMD based gaming PC's come out on top in this or will Intel stay the reigning gaming CPU champion? I haven't read anything about any potential benefits so I'm just speculating.

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Old June 5, 2013, 03:30 AM
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Intel will stay top dog for quite some time unless AMD can pull something amazing out of the bag, and even then I think Intel will stay close and make up ground quickly.

That said, swapping from an 8350 to a 3770k? unless it's free (or VERY close to it) I wouldn't bother.
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Old June 6, 2013, 05:17 AM
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Intel will stay top dog for quite some time unless AMD can pull something amazing out of the bag, and even then I think Intel will stay close and make up ground quickly.

That said, swapping from an 8350 to a 3770k? unless it's free (or VERY close to it) I wouldn't bother.
What I meant was, "will an 8350 be better in the long run since future games may be specifically developed/optimized for it's architecture"..... not "will AMD come out with something new to beat Intel".

As for right now I have the hardware available for testing. I ran some quick and dirty benchmarks last night with my FX-8350. I ran 3DMark, Heaven 4.0, and took down some approximate fps numbers in a few games. Tonight I'm going to swap the Crosshair and 8350 for the Maximus and 3770. I'll see if I gain much performance with my 2x7970's and eyefinity setup. If the difference is huge I'll switch . If not then I'll stay put with AMD.
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Old June 6, 2013, 06:37 AM
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I don't think AMD having the consoles will affect CPU performance. Where I could see it making a difference is in graphics card technology, where AMD may have a leg up on Nvidia.
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The best thing about the new xbox is that it is using directx 11 and the x86 cpu. No real need to even port, just add keyboard/mouse support.

i'm sure they will optimize the games for amd gpu's. Might give them an advatage but the game devs will work with nVidia too.

Intel will still be faster as both cpu's use the same x86 architecture.
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Old June 6, 2013, 08:01 AM
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The best thing about the new xbox is that it is using directx 11 and the x86 cpu. No real need to even port, just add keyboard/mouse support.

i'm sure they will optimize the games for amd gpu's. Might give them an advatage but the game devs will work with nVidia too.

Intel will still be faster as both cpu's use the same x86 architecture.
AMD may try to force some of their own technology into upcoming game engines, such as OpenCL, for example, if that's applicable.
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I don't think AMD having the consoles will affect CPU performance. Where I could see it making a difference is in graphics card technology, where AMD may have a leg up on Nvidia.
8 core consoles will make multithreading well pretty mandatory, bet that will mean a lot of 8 thread games which AMD is pretty competitive in...
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The best thing about the new xbox is that it is using directx 11 and the x86 cpu. No real need to even port, just add keyboard/mouse support.

i'm sure they will optimize the games for amd gpu's. Might give them an advatage but the game devs will work with nVidia too.

Intel will still be faster as both cpu's use the same x86 architecture.
This is why I'm HAPPY they didn't make the PS4 OR the Xbox One backwards compatible and moved from the powerpc architecture to x86.

I would love to see the day where most games use 4 cores as I haven't found a lot that do.I doubt you'd find much of a performance difference between the two gaming, more so when it comes to overclocking and benchmarking.

Wouldn't OpenGL make it so that games could run on Linux, potentially allowing us to get away from Windows as the only gaming OS?
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8 core consoles will make multithreading well pretty mandatory, bet that will mean a lot of 8 thread games which AMD is pretty competitive in...
Ya, or it will mean that a lot more gamers will end up buying i7's. Which I'm not too unhappy about. I would love an i7, I just can't justify it since I technically have no use for it. Currently I'm only contemplating buying one for the increased 'bling' and folding performance. If I needed one to increase performance in multi-threaded games, I would do so in a heartbeat. AMD's chip currently wouldn't factor into my decision. It would be i7 all the way!
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8 core consoles will make multithreading well pretty mandatory, bet that will mean a lot of 8 thread games which AMD is pretty competitive in...
These two points are exactly what has me wondering which one to use.
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