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Old December 21, 2012, 01:29 AM
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Offset voltage is so you don't have to run max voltage through your CPU at all times even when its throttled down by speed step. With the mpower if you OC ur cpu it will be running at max voltage all the time. Means excess heat and power for no reason.
No. actually it doesn't.

We implement CPU offset voltage differently and from an overclocking perspective, apparantly better.

In ClickBIOS, go to "Hybrid Digital Power"

And there you can select your offset options, control and compensation.

Set VDroop Offset control to 100% (100% of the set voltage at maximum CPU speed) set Digital Compensation to High and just leave EIST enabled.

This leaves the Load Line Calibration settings at 100% when you set your voltages you want for OC and the system will do the rest.

As you can see from the table below (4.8 GHz LinX) this gives you lower power consumption vs. Asus/Gigabyte, lower temperatures and better performance.

oh .. and NO VCORE fluctuation.

Btw, you can also see that CPU-Z is not a perfect solution for measuring voltages, there is a bigger discrepancy in measured voltages between hardware and CPU-Z than maximum allowed measurement deviation. This is because CPU-Z only polls the SuperI/O chip (as far as I know.)



So in the end, we completely understand that higher power consumption and higher temperatures are a BAD thing, that is exactly why you should get an MPOWER and not any of the other boards.

Another example is X79. With default settings and clocked to 5GHz, an XPOWER II will use less power at Idle than a Rampage IV @3.3 GHz at idle.
Check that out here (vortez.net): ASUS Rampage IV Extreme BF3 Review - Power Consumption

xtremehardware.com Z77 MPOWER review:
MSI Z77 MPOWER: la prima ad essere certificata per l?overclock - Page 2
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Old December 24, 2012, 11:44 AM
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Set VDroop Offset control to 100% (100% of the set voltage at maximum CPU speed) set Digital Compensation to High and just leave EIST enabled

That by luck is how I have been running mine
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Old January 2, 2013, 10:35 PM
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I got this board too for my current set up, picked it up last Black Friday. The board comes packed comparing to others at the same price point. The board comes with Bluetooth and wifi which are good extras plus they have service center here in Canada RMAs, at least in my opinion, would be better and faster. Hoped you picked one up already :)
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Old January 16, 2013, 10:54 AM
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No. actually it doesn't.

We implement CPU offset voltage differently and from an overclocking perspective, apparantly better.

In ClickBIOS, go to "Hybrid Digital Power"

And there you can select your offset options, control and compensation.

Set VDroop Offset control to 100% (100% of the set voltage at maximum CPU speed) set Digital Compensation to High and just leave EIST enabled.

This leaves the Load Line Calibration settings at 100% when you set your voltages you want for OC and the system will do the rest.

As you can see from the table below (4.8 GHz LinX) this gives you lower power consumption vs. Asus/Gigabyte, lower temperatures and better performance.

oh .. and NO VCORE fluctuation.

Btw, you can also see that CPU-Z is not a perfect solution for measuring voltages, there is a bigger discrepancy in measured voltages between hardware and CPU-Z than maximum allowed measurement deviation. This is because CPU-Z only polls the SuperI/O chip (as far as I know.)



So in the end, we completely understand that higher power consumption and higher temperatures are a BAD thing, that is exactly why you should get an MPOWER and not any of the other boards.

Another example is X79. With default settings and clocked to 5GHz, an XPOWER II will use less power at Idle than a Rampage IV @3.3 GHz at idle.
Check that out here (vortez.net): ASUS Rampage IV Extreme BF3 Review - Power Consumption

xtremehardware.com Z77 MPOWER review:
MSI Z77 MPOWER: la prima ad essere certificata per l?overclock - Page 2

Only EIST state used ?
all other C states disabled?
Power option Custom?
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Old January 19, 2013, 12:44 PM
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If Y want volts to ramp up and down with CPU(1500-1600 to 4100 or 4200 or 4300 mhz) and with a 3570k chip on this board:

Like CPU voltage offset similar to A*** boards

Set CPU volts:
Auto

CPU PLL:
1.700 or 1.755

Hybrid Digital Power:
CPU V Core +Vdroop control: 68.5 %
Digital Compensation: High

As you get closer to 4300 MHz you may have to up the +vdroop YMMV

When cpu is at low use and around 1500-1600mhz it will have lower cpu volts
Under load say prime 95 at max MHz(4100 or 4200 or 4300) it will ramp up volts needed

Observe thru appropriate app that its doing that
cpuz is fast AND check for WHEA errors in administrative......... tools very important


If its WHEA errors in Administrative tools more juice is needed up the vdroop

you MAY find with a 3570k that at 4300 MHz(43 core ratio in CPU features) and up is not attainable without whea errors this way thou
YMMV

Compared to fixed CPU volts

but running more MHz doesn't always increase CPU efficiency always
100-200mhz less speed isn't maybe a deal breaker to get changing voltage as some seek on this 'board

EDIT: cleaned up
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Seasonic X-660
Corsair 540 Cube
Intel Speed Demon x 2

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