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Old January 28, 2013, 08:29 AM
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Gskill gets allot of mentions these days and the 8GB of sniper I put in my brothers rig are rock solid though I haven't overclocked anything yet. (he doesn't need an oc at all at the mo).
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Old January 28, 2013, 03:16 PM
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If the Gskill is the same price or cheaper then the vengeance I would say go with it. Kingston & Samsung are both good memory companies. If you are buying new 1866 is pretty much the same as 1600, I would say its not worth going past 1866 though right now.
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Old January 28, 2013, 03:30 PM
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I picked up some Kingston HyperX 1600.
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Old January 28, 2013, 07:56 PM
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It is "apples to apples" if that is the 24/7 stable oc you get from them.. your trying to compare chips overall not what each chip can do clock for clock..

Thats like saying the intel can't do that speed so why should you test the amd at it.. you test them all at their max stable oc.
Rofl. A 4.5Ghz OC on a 3770K is a moderate OC for that chip (many can do it @ 1.25v or less). 5Ghz is a HIGH OC for the 8350 (1.40-1.5v depending on chip). If they want to do apples to apples OCing...fine. Compare 4.5 vs 4.5. Both are decent 24/7 OC's for these two chips, w/ moderate voltage....but to use max possible vs easy oc...yeah thats not biased in the least.

Like I said, the 8350 is a good bang for the buck chip...but crap like that does not do anyone any favours. Let it stand on its own merits.
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Old January 29, 2013, 04:22 AM
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Rofl. A 4.5Ghz OC on a 3770K is a moderate OC for that chip (many can do it @ 1.25v or less). 5Ghz is a HIGH OC for the 8350 (1.40-1.5v depending on chip). If they want to do apples to apples OCing...fine. Compare 4.5 vs 4.5. Both are decent 24/7 OC's for these two chips, w/ moderate voltage....but to use max possible vs easy oc...yeah thats not biased in the least.

Like I said, the 8350 is a good bang for the buck chip...but crap like that does not do anyone any favours. Let it stand on its own merits.
Exactly why I'd love to see a similar review come from these doors. See exactly how much liberties they were taking.
But it's also possible that they had a good amd and poor i7? your own reviews show the amd clocking 200mhz faster, doesn't take much of a stretch to get where they are..
That said I'm not aware of the safe voltages for the 8350. Not been following AMD much of late on the CPU front.

Most interested to see what effect the Windows update has if any.
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Old January 29, 2013, 06:16 PM
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Rofl. A 4.5Ghz OC on a 3770K is a moderate OC for that chip (many can do it @ 1.25v or less).
...Some can't. For example my wife's 3770k cannot pass the 4.6Ghz mark. Mine will not pass 4.8Ghz. My guess is that few hit 5Ghz and are stable.

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5Ghz is a HIGH OC for the 8350 (1.40-1.5v depending on chip). If they want to do apples to apples OCing...fine. Compare 4.5 vs 4.5. Both are decent 24/7 OC's for these two chips, w/ moderate voltage....but to use max possible vs easy oc...yeah thats not biased in the least.

Like I said, the 8350 is a good bang for the buck chip...but crap like that does not do anyone any favours. Let it stand on its own merits.
I agree with most of that but I also understand what Dzzope is saying.
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Old January 29, 2013, 06:49 PM
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Exactly why I'd love to see a similar review come from these doors. See exactly how much liberties they were taking.
But it's also possible that they had a good amd and poor i7? your own reviews show the amd clocking 200mhz faster, doesn't take much of a stretch to get where they are..
That said I'm not aware of the safe voltages for the 8350. Not been following AMD much of late on the CPU front.

Most interested to see what effect the Windows update has if any.
My personal best guess - no insider info here...i dont do the CPU reviews ;) - is that most of the boost that AMD gets...Intel will as well. AMD implemented a hardware solution and Intel did a more 'firmware' solution (Hyper Threading). So I am not holding out much 'hope' that my 8350 will suddenly start beating my 3770k outside of niche tests. Doesnt mean its a bad chip or bad choice...just that its not a 3770K 'killer'. YMMV

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...Some can't. For example my wife's 3770k cannot pass the 4.6Ghz mark. Mine will not pass 4.8Ghz. My guess is that few hit 5Ghz and are stable.

I agree with most of that but I also understand what Dzzope is saying.
Exactly. Overclocking is luck of the draw. My 3770K does 4.5 @ 1.21volts. I've cranked it way...way further but think 4.5 is 'good enough'. My 8350...well lets just say 4.5 is the highest I would ever want to go with it and leave it at that as its not a good OC'er. I am more interested in long term not short term OC's...and there is a point of diminishing returns. In either case the 8350 runs hotter, uses more power and needs louder cooling...and is slower (this is with both at 4.5). YMMV but both are good kit.

IF AMD can get the heat and power issues under control next gen....Intel will have a real run for their money on their hands!
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So I'm having a problem. I installed 8350, and ran P95 at stock clocks to see what stock temps are like with my cooler.

Cores 1 & 2 immediately fail. See attached picture.

Also, this chip refuses to fold. Tried reinstalling V7 and erasing all data. No Dice.

WTF? Do I have a Pooped CPU? I just bought it at Mem Ex yesterday. What is their return/exchange policy?
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are u running the newest Bios for your motherboard? I have the same motherboard in my rackmount it required a Bios update for my 8350
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Old January 29, 2013, 07:44 PM
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bios updated to 1604, the latest.
I phoned Mem Ex. If I don't come up with a solution, I can go down there, and they will probably replace it :)
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