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Old April 11, 2012, 08:21 AM
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Lightbulb People there have or had a AMD Bulldozer CPU, please help.

Hi.

Is there someone here that have tried to use Windows XP 32 or 64 bit on a AMD Bulldozer CPU?
I hope some of you can share the experience by use Windows XP on that cpu.
I will like to now if the AMD Bulldozer CPU can run on Windows XP without problems, and use the hyperthread and cores?

I answer because i can't drop off Windows XP jet, i love that classic OS if you know what i mean.
It is nice and easy to use, and also more fast.
And i want to upgrade my hardware very soon, when i have some things cleared

And what is best: AMD Phenom II VS AMD Bulldozer?
As i know they have almost the same technology exept the core technology, but AMD FX have a much larger cache. so I'm a little confused about what i shall select.

And if i use AMD Phenom II, what is the best Motherbard Socket: AM3 or AM3+?


All help is appreciated.
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Old April 11, 2012, 08:37 AM
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I have run XP in a vm on a bulldozer opteron and it worked fine. Core parking won't work and you will get some inefficient threading going on with the cores since its a sudo hyperthreading. That being said unless you have a stop watch out I doubt you would notice on any legacy apps running on xp.

If you can get one on sale where it's $20-30 cheaper then the PII equivalent then it's a wash I personally think. They are a bit power hungry but I think bios updates and playing with power settings help a lot.
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Old April 11, 2012, 10:35 AM
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IMO the Phenom II X4 is still the better chip .The Bulldozer was a big disappointment as far as I am concerned ,the reviews I have looked at show running them clock per clock the Phenom II is the faster chip.I know the bulldozer will over clock better ,but it needs the extra speed to even compete with the older Phenom II.I know you can get a 8-core chip pretty cheap ,but very few games make use of the extra cores and if you like classic XP games .I don't know what kind of system you are running now but I would'nt spedd a whole lot on a bulldozer system.If you just play games and want great performance and going to buy a whole new system then it is hard not to say go with intel.Socket AM3 and AM3+,the AM3+ has more features.Like I said I don't know what you are running now.But I have ran a Phenom II x 4 and a AM3+ with windows XP and never had any problems ,But the reviews ended me on the Bulldozer.I think the Bulldozer would be better as a server CPU the a gamer CPU.
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Old April 11, 2012, 11:31 AM
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An AM3+ chipset is going to get you the latest motherboard options (like USB 3) regardless of what proc you decide to put into it.

As much as I rail against BD, I still give kudos to AMD for keeping the same socket for so long. Now, if only we could convince them to ramp production of PH II procs until such time as they've got a true replacement for them, they'll be back in my good books.
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Old April 11, 2012, 12:36 PM
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look for PII x4 or x6 chips, whatever you can find. Its not worth going with DumbDozer at this point.
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Thans for all of your helps already

Well some of your have asked me what system i have now, and that is: Gigabyte G41MT-D3V Motherboard. Intel Pentium 4 E6700 (3.2 ghz, 2 cores, 2mb cache). Nvidia GTX 550 TI and Windows XP 64-bit.

And out of your experience, then i will take the Phenom II x4. It has a larche cache (2+6 mb), 4 cores, 3.40Ghz and Hyperthread Technology. I think that is much better then a Intel Pentium 4 E6700 Processor. But what do you say?

And i still don't know if i shall use a AM3 or AM3+ Motherboard, because i have heart of some people and read at the motherboards website that AM3+ should be fully compitable with AM3 CPUs. But that's not the same as it will run in equal speeds,
So what do you guys say about that?
AM3+ support sata 6 gb/s, USB 3.0, 1066MHz - 1866Mhz Ram, so i hope AM3+ motherbard can run AMD Phenom II with same compatability as AM3 motherbards, so i hope AM3+, so theoretically, it is best two buy a AM3 + Motherboard.
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