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Old January 14, 2012, 03:03 AM
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My mobo is not working good and it hangs while watching movies.I have an old P4 506 @ 2.66Ghz
When i asked the retailer to get a new mobo he said ddr3 mobo will work with ur cpu.He suggested me a gigabyte mobo in which cpu list has my cpu name.So will it work?
Also i am not going to get a graphic card in it but still like to install windows 7 on it.So suggest me a good chipset.It's LGA 775 socket.
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Old January 14, 2012, 06:00 AM
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So you're going to need to buy DDR3 from him- I would direct you to a $200 mobo CPU bundle (Phenom 2) that will actually be a huge upgrade rather than an pricey repair of a hugely outdated system. What is your vendor charging for the new mobo and memory?

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Old January 14, 2012, 06:02 AM
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ya~ i can help with that, it my my specialty ;)
That and Frankenstein experiments on older computer hardware.
Ok your computer needs a upgrade Sir.

Might i segest a Frankenstein mix of parts on the cheap to improve your computer.

And yes socket 775 mobos will take more or less anything you can pop in em if their new.

For this ill use new egg and the like for price checks and parts availability nothing more, i don't like ordering online cus if you have a problem after the fact its a pain to send the parts back.

Ps crud gets in your mobo over the years, check all heat sinks and clean em if needed, use some cleaner and remove all cards and anything you can and clean that too, long story short clean everything and at the same time check for bad caps.


your psu might be flaking out too, open it if needed can clean out the junk, check caps.

more then that ya you can get a new 775 mobo if you wanted.

Ps see if you can get your hands on a GA-P45T-ES3G, the Bord owns {for the price ~ $80} imho but sadly i don't think its made anymore.


advantages:
top notch chipsets for socket 775 last i checked on the cheap.
dirt cheap
4 memory dimms
full ps2 keyboard~mouse support
floppy ~ p-ide support
piles of old school pci
lots of s-ata
grate overclocker bios.
ddr3 support though they made a ddr2 one as well {get ddr3}

disadvantages

the north-bridge heat sink blows.{like most cheap mobos}
change it before even testing the Bord,ghetto mod it or whatever you have to do but do something if not the north-bridge chip will be running at near the thermal limit of what it can take +80c

auto bios overclock problem detection thingy tends to be paranoid.
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and yes its compatible with your cpu all the way to a quad core q9550 though i don't know about overclocking a quad core on this mobo it might push the voltage regulating switching transistors too far seeing as their not cooled,a twin core cpu pulls in half the power.

this ones $65, not amazing but its hard to find decent 775 mobos of late.
Newegg.ca - BIOSTAR T41 HD LGA 775 Intel G41 ATX Intel Motherboard

you know what, i can't find jack that's new worth talking if were talking new parts. sorry but but 775 mobos are now past their prime.

try this.

$20 Canadian
Intel CPU Pentium DualCore E5400 2.70GHz FSB800MHz 2M LGA775 - Victoriaville accessoires informatiques vendre - Kijiji Victoriaville
that's a Intel core 2 duo with 2 megs cash ram but the same cpu as a woulfdale core.

It can overclock to 4000mgz ish depending on cooling @ 1.4v before vdrop.
It suffers -5% performance drop depending what its doing vs the faster fsb & 4 megs cash ram same cpu version.
They don't call em core 2 Duo till they have 3 megs cash ram but its the same cpu.

Note~ Low heat out put cpu ~ cpu tends to freak if pushed past 333Mgz fsb.

more info
E5200 - Overclocking Thread

Get a dirt cheap cooling tower with heat pipes or something for cooling for like $20 used.

Use that pile of spare 80" fans that are in a box down stairs and ghetto mod holes everyware in your case for extra cooling.

$50
9800 gtx + videon card nvidia price to sell quick - Gatineau Computer Parts For Sale - Kijiji Gatineau Canada.


geforce 9800gtx+ 512ram

And ddr3 ram is cheap atm $30 {4 gigs ram} fix's the memory problem
And recycle the rest of your computer.

If needed you can get a 685watt psu junk no name brand for $35 new.
{real max watts 400watts then it pops}

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on the flip side if all you want is a mobo 775 for your cpu on the cheap check out used parts buy~sell~trade stores near you
I have like 6 mobos in stock for your cpu atm used for only $20 {no tax} & knock your self out
What do you mean by {i don't like dell} ?

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Old January 14, 2012, 03:20 PM
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P5Q-E motherboard with new ram to use same cpu

Or

Phenom II 955BE $110 or so
Motherboard Asus M5A97 or A97 EVO or M5A99X EVO $70-$145(the A99X EVO is a sick awesome motherboard)
$45-$65Ram Gskill 8gb 1333/1600 GBRL or GBXL ripjaw model, I have the GBXL 1866 8gb kit and it works fine at many different speeds/timings.

Anyways.

First option
around $230
second option
~$375 plus a new gpu add another $110-$900:P(depends on what you want/need) I vote for GTX460 338 shader 1gb, GTX560 Ti or Radeon 6870 or 6950 1gb/2gb or Radeon 7970/7950, you want to make sure you have AT LEAST a 650w power supply to be on the "safe side"

I know there are cheaper vid cards, but, spending $80 on something much less powerfull is honestly a huge waste of $, the good cards for the most part are $150-$300 price range, for Nvidia the x60 series for Radeons the x8x0 series, examples GTX260, GTX460, GTX560Ti or above, for Radeons 4850/4870, 5850/5870,6850/6870 or above. This will generally give you a great cost/performance ratio and will usually have alot more performance under the hood compared to the cards one step below them.
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Old January 14, 2012, 05:47 PM
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Phenom II 955BE $110
good price for a quad though i just read some reviews about it on the heat + unstable when overclocked and it peeking out at big time tops 4000mgz even with aggressive cooling.
And don't use it with windows vista or you end up with a bad case of kernel panic freak out.

i3 5xx still is a viable option at this price range depending of course what you use your pc for.
hard pick though seeing as one way or the other newer games will end up setup for quads and not twins.

the amd cpu future profs the system more then the twin core.

review of a i3 550 @ 4600mgz ~ ps np on air cooling.
Intel Core i3-540 'Clarkdale' LGA1156 Processor Review

~Intel Core i3/i5 32nm Dual Core OverCLARKing Thread~

i3-560 #L013B634 5.02GHz w/1.52v vid 1.20v twirlywhirly555
Watch your heat levels,water cooling recommended.

Ps all the game used in the review are twin core only games if not single core games.
The intel i3 540 is still being sold for around $99+tax

hard pick though ..

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Old January 14, 2012, 08:36 PM
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if this is just a basic media system I have lots of 775 mobo's and even some better Pentium D's kicking around as well as enough ram to get you going and a basic media center card.
PM me if you want other options but mostly whats your location if your really close I will just send you goodies to get you going :)
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Old January 14, 2012, 08:38 PM
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another option is a buddy of mines store has this deal right now




Motherboard: Biostar TH55B-HD W/4 RAM SLOTS
SUPPORT UP TO 2000MHz
CPU: Intel i3 550
Memory: Kingston DDR3 4G 1333

Buy all 3 items together Special bundle price $199.00
I would even force her to include another 4GB for no charge but that seems like over kill for a very basic setup:)
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Old January 15, 2012, 02:18 AM
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Just did a tour of duty in regards to the AMD Phenom II 955BE.

Seems its on par more or less depending on the benchmark with a Intel Q9650 -8% efficiency on a mhz vs mhz basis and for the price you can't go wrong with the AMD.

Real down side that i can see is ~
"A" heat, 2x more cores means 2x more heat.
"B" can't hit the same peek Mhz as the i3.

So the real question is do you want a faster mgz wise twin that overclocks nicely with a air cooler or a slower but more cores quad cpu that all most wants water cooling.

Its a apples vs oranges topic.
it's all a matter of what kind of software you plain on using the most on your pc.

My self i tend to play a lot of older pc games that ones that are still popular online.
So my self id go for the fast twin and keep my eyes open for a bargain bin used cpu special down the road on kijiji ~ cregslist for a i7 something or other if and when needed for pennies on the dollar.

Might as recommend as well
Cooler master hyper 212 = $20
Asus p7p55 LX lga 1156 Intell p55 ATX = $99


Plz keep in mind that half of what a video card douse is done by the video card, the other half is main system cpu ram.
Meaning 2x your video cards = 2x sub system load meaning get a quad core,meaning get the Phenom II 955BE $110 if your in the mood for twin Video cards sli stile on the cheap
For a I3 setup just get the fastest single video card you can afford.

Ps the p55 chipset has 16 pci-e lanes

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Old January 15, 2012, 08:12 AM
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guys i have planned not to upgrade my old system and decided to throw it away.So i'm sorry for this thread.
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Old January 15, 2012, 09:05 AM
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Doesn't hurt to see what you could have done...I wouldn't have bothered fixing it up either.
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