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Old March 3, 2008, 08:13 PM
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I finally got fed up of waiting and ordered the upgrade I've been planning for the last 6 months.

Zalman CNPS9700NT Copper CPU Heatsink 110MM Fan LGA775 AM2 S939 1250-2800RPM 19.5-35DBA Green LED
$67.01

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 Dual Core Processor LGA775 1.8GHZ 800FSB 1MB Retail
$72.80

Evga Nforce 780I Sli LGA775 Atx 3PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Raid Sound Gblan 1394 Motherboard
$248.88

G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
$118.80

I wanted the q9450, but once I found out about the E2160, I figured this cpu would be a great "practice" cpu for someone transitioning from AMD to the intel platform and will hold me over until the Q9450 comes out - for 75 bucks its a great deal and OC's like a champ.
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Old March 4, 2008, 07:30 AM
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Hehehe... a Ferrari with an Escort engine! ROFL

Seriously, I understand what you did - I've been waiting my Q9450 since Feb 2nd, and bought an E8400 last night to ease the waiting time... Keep us posted on the oc! BTW, my E2140 did 3.2GHz...
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Old March 4, 2008, 07:40 AM
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you really should have got an E4300/500 for another 25 bucks, if you wanted some practice overclocking a core2duo. Why do people buy these pentium chips.. they are meagerly weak they are not a core2duo, just because it has an E in front of it. I'd say a 50% cpu increase and a 100% FSB increase is a decent overclocker an E4300 or 500 would have gotten you to 3.0~3.3ghz with a 1600mhz fsb, and would have actually held you off buying anything more. That thing is going to be slow although you'll be used to it coming from AMD.

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Old March 4, 2008, 08:34 AM
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Just wondering where you can get an e4300 for 100 bucks?

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http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...l&promoid=1055

There is an e4500 for 129. At TigerDirect its 119. ok so 45 more for a 2.2 core2duo, they dont have any e4300's listed anymore, they did when I got mine, haven't really looked since then. I see now its discontinued?

Still stand by my main point, that for marginally more money there could have been a decent processor in the board. Actually take out the unnecessary Zalmann cooler, and get even a friggin Ninja and you'd have made up most of the difference. Still pushed the chip as far as it'd go.

Either way I'm sure the OP will have fun setting it up and o/c the hell out of the e2xxx!
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Cool, was just looking for a budget processor too. Thanks for the link though. The best I could find was $144 with shopbot .ca .
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Gotta say I love my e4500, even on the stock cooler I was at 2.8 with no voltage change.
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Old March 4, 2008, 10:13 AM
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the e21XX series processors are based on core2 architecture according to the thread referenced here:

Intel™ - $89 Pentium Dual Core (Core2 architecture) @ 3.2Ghz - DIY-Street Forums

The fact that it is literally the cheapest socket 775 cpu at direct canada (sorry the e2140 is fifty cents or so cheaper...lol... still cant believe its only $75!!) is the reason I bought it and not another more expensive cpu. That and the fact that it seems to be one of the best OC-able CPUs on the market right now. The thing is just something to hold me over until the q9450 comes out.

Besides that, I wanted to get the stuff while I could - this past x-mas, I was planning on ordering some stuff and when I finally had my decisions made, the things I wanted weren't available until months later. Also, it helps get my current Cylops system into another box so then I'll have 2 good gaming rigs to go head to head!! All I need is a HD, optical drive and case (maybe a floppy, too...lol)
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They are actually the last pentium dual core processors, rather than "true" C2D's, but yes they are based on the core2 architecture. Rather than the 2mb cache that the e4xx's have, the e2xx's have 1mb.

I wouldn't say that the e2xx's are bad processors when compared with the e4xx's however. If you are looking at pure OC headroom, I'm up 70% from my stock 2ghz, only needing to go up 70% on the FSB as well (versus 100% FSB for 50% CPU OC that Keir mentioned). That being said, I can go higher but decided not to for 24/7 use.

I personally believe people buy them because they are easy to overclock, and cheap. I do not think there are any other qualities a first-time OC'er might want from the first chip they OC, which makes it a great intro chip imo. Especially for someone coming from AMD to Intel. As for it "being slow so you'll be used to it coming from AMD", I don't see how 3ghz + is slow?

I am not trying to start a flame war, just saying that's all.

Now, in the end - I would still prefer the extra cache on the e4xx's if I could have afforded it at the time.
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Old March 4, 2008, 03:58 PM
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the bottom line is that if the new quad would have been released, I would have bought that. Since I still intend to buy this cpu, then, for me, it makes sense to buy the cheapest cpu I can get because it may only be in use for a couple of months. I considered buying something a bit better, but I don't want to spend any more extra $$$ than I have to.

Also, if you read the tom's hardware thread that is at the beginning of the diy-street thread, you'll see that at 3Ghz+ the elcheapo cpu scores very close to it's core2duo cousins at the same frequencies on many benchmarks.

Overclocking is one of the funnest "games" I can play with my computer. One of the main "rules" of the game is to get the cheapest cpu out there to go as fast as an expensive one. I think this cpu will give me the most bang for my buck for sure!!!
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