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Old March 1, 2008, 08:05 PM
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Hey Guys, I was hoping for some advice or discussion for a n00b on a mobo for my new rig. This will be my second build and OC, used mostly for gaming, photo editing and tinkering. Here are the parts that I either already have or are on the way :

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (G0)
Galaxy GeForce 8800GTS 650MHZ 512MB
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Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 750GB
Coolermaster Cosmos S
Zalman CNPS9700 (might upgrade to ultra 120)

From my reviewing and personal experience, for my new board i've narrowed it down to a few choices:
Gigabyte x38 DQ6 - problems with 4 ram chips(apparently) but strong overclocker
Asus Maximus Formula - Probably a great board to start ocing with
Asus p5k-E/wifi - Great value, my buddy has this board and loves it. (p35)
Asus Rampage Formula - see last paragraph

I've also looked at some of the DFI boards which are supposed to be great for OCing, but I've read that they might have more options then I need as a beginner.

I was also thinking of holding off and waiting to see how the x48 boards do, but im starting to wonder if the extra $ would justify the performance gains someone like myself would attain with one over an x38. im personally getting tired of reading and waiting, im leaning towards the maximus which seems to be a very popular board and proven performer. Also, the prices on the x38's might come down a bit with the x48's coming out soon, but im starting to find the x38's hard to find.

Thanks in advance for any advice or opinions.

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Old March 1, 2008, 08:13 PM
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You'll soon find out (or if you haven't done so already) that these forums are biased towards Asus and Gigabyte. I'm on the Gigabyte side. Going over your list, no RAID, no Xfire/SLI needed right? I vote for the GA-P35-DS3L. I have one, lots of BIOS options and a very good oc'er - even for a Quad. Heck I managed to hit 4.1GHz under water, and I can say that it booted at 4.3.... though it was folding at 3.7GHz.

If you wish to head towards Asus, go for the Maximus Formula.

And with that Quad, definitely go for the TRUE 120.
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Thanks for the advice 3.0charlie. I'm reading some very interesting posts comparing x38 to p35. Anyone care to share their opinions on this? Many seem to think that unless you are running Crossfire, p35 is better value for your money.
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You'll soon find out (or if you haven't done so already) that these forums are biased towards Asus and Gigabyte. I'm on the Gigabyte side.
If you wish to head towards Asus, go for the Maximus Formula.

And with that Quad, definitely go for the TRUE 120.
I agree with 3.0charlie a lot! However...I like both! ASUS & Gigabyte both make excellent boards...you have to realize however, that as an overclocker, you might want aboard with a LOT of opportunities to go 'EXTREME'! If find that the DS3L doesn't have that many options.....So you might want to kick it up a notch and find a Gigabyte board with more options! GL
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As a beginner, you probably won't want a DFI board. They are very good OC boards with the most options, but they are meant for experienced users.

I have a Gigabyte 965P-DS3, and it runs very well. I have it at 500FSB with no problems whatsoever. I know, it's older, but it gives u a good idea that Gigabyte boards are very nice value boards.

I think you'll be happy if you go with either the ASUS P5K-E/wifi or the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3x. If your budget allows, then might as well splurge on the Maximus.

Also, you definitely want the TRUE instead of the CNPS9700, and pair it with a Noctua NF-P12/Scythe S-Flex F/Slipstream 1600/Ultra Kaze 2000. IMO, Zalman products are good, but rather overpriced.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the replies. I'll definitely invest in a true 120, but in the ncix site they were saying there are issues in getting it to fit in the cosmos s, here is the link :

NCIX FORUMS - Cooler fit - Coolermaster Cosmos S Black E-ATX Alumin...

I guess i will find out myself unless anyone else has some info on this. I'm also leaning towards splurging and buying the maximus as it looks to have lots of cool stuff to play with. I should be alright as long as I wait for the mailman and incinerate the credit card bill before certain people in my household get a chance to see it :rtfm:. She seems to think that groceries and bills are more important then geeking up my computer.
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X38 is a waste of money as is X48

P35 is the sweet chipset right now as 780i is a rehashed 680i and nothing more.

I prefer the Abit IP35 Pro, Asus P5K-E or the Gigabyte board and in that order.

DFI boards are for the crazy over clocker only.
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X38 is a waste of money as is X48

P35 is the sweet chipset right now as 780i is a rehashed 680i and nothing more.

I prefer the Abit IP35 Pro, Asus P5K-E or the Gigabyte board and in that order.

DFI boards are for the crazy over clocker only.
Right, forgot about the Abit IP35 Pro. It's also an excellent board, and it's not really that expensive. However, I remember hearing smth about Abit not having good BIOS support soon after release...maybe someone can comment on this?

The 780i is definitely a waste of money...but I think the x48 can run CrossFire AND SLi? (Not sure about this...remember skimming thru something similar)
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I agree with 3.0charlie a lot! However...I like both! ASUS & Gigabyte both make excellent boards...you have to realize however, that as an overclocker, you might want aboard with a LOT of opportunities to go 'EXTREME'! If find that the DS3L doesn't have that many options.....So you might want to kick it up a notch and find a Gigabyte board with more options! GL
I agree with Prof. Dr. Silver on this... the DS3L is a great board for dually's and good with quads, but for best quad overclocking, you want a mobo with GTL Ref adjustments. I would take the Maximus out of your list(if you can afford it), and apparently the load-line calibration keeps vDrop/vDroop to decent levels. GL
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The Maximus is a killer board. I kinda butchered mine by installing it with a spare mobo standoff right under the PCIe slot... but the bottom slot still works, so I am using it as a folding machine now. It is Very simple to overclock my X3210 with, and also very stable and simple. I replaced my main rig with the DFI X38 which is an amazing board! However, the BIOS is not for the faint of heart. Very Very in depth. Heck they have adjustable settings in there I have never heard of....extremely in depth.....

The Maximus is a great board, and at a decent price. If you can get a Asus P5E WS Pro, it is also a wicked board, and extremely stable and fool proof.
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