AMD A8-3850 APU Review: Llano Hits the Desktop Comment Thread

[HTPC_Fan]

AMD A8 X4-3800 SERIES QUAD-CORE 65W 4MB 2700MHZ FM1 BOX
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NOTE: The ETA is only an estimate and is subject to change without notice.

It's looking more like these parts should be available on the 19th of September. Although the previous post still shows the 26th after originally showing the 19th. I checked with a source yesterday that also said that they were expecting parts on the 19th.

[HTPC_Fan]

Well, I'm not finding any AD3800OJGXBOX in stock anywhere today so hopefully we'll see some on the 26th. This just seems to add fuel to the rumors that the Llano yields have not been very good...

[HTPC_Fan]

This site: Notebooks, Projectors - PC SuperStore now lists Estimated Time of Arrival as 12/31/2018.

AMD A8 X4-3800 SERIES QUAD-CORE 65W 4MB 2700MHZ FM1 BOX

Part #: 11435609
Manufacturer: AMD
Manufacturer Part #: AD3800OJGXBOX
Your Price: $150.16
Availability: Out of Stock



Estimated Time of Arrival: 12/31/2018

NOTE: The ETA is only an estimate and is subject to change without notice.

This site: AMD AD3800OJGXBOX A8 X4-3800 QC FM1 UPGA 2400MHZ 65W BOX - BLT Catalog lists ETA as "none".

So sometime between 12/31/2018 and "never".

I wonder if AMD will make a version of Trinity that will work in my FM1 motherboard...

[MAC]

Originally Posted by HTPC_Fan

I wonder if AMD will make a version of Trinity that will work in my FM1 motherboard...

Regrettably, I don't think so. I believe they are going FM2 for the next-gen desktop APU's.

[HTPC_Fan]

AMD cuts Q3 rev view on supply issues; shares fall - Yahoo! Finance

"The company said the revenue forecast cut was mainly due to 32 nm yield, ramp and manufacturing issues at Globalfoundries' German factory that limited the supply of its Llano chips."

Yeah, no !


So much for the assurances given here:

18 Aug 2011 09:21
AMD reassures partners about Llano supply glitch - It will be OK | TechEye

[HTPC_Fan]

Here's what Charlie is saying over at Semiaccurate:
AMD misses, Bergman scores, all in one day | SemiAccurate

How bad is it? We previously mentioned the 50-60% yield numbers, but there is a more important number, fully working, IE A8, chips. Yields for those parts are said to be in the 5-15% range, something a little worse than abysmal. To put a positive spin on things, there are a lot more A6s and A4s floating around than A8s, so if you are in the market for one of those, things look good. Back to the negative side, there aren’t many of either in the channel, nor do their look to be soon.

For those playing at home, you can get a rundown on the different models here:
AMD A-Series Processor Model Number and Feature Comparisons

Basically A8's have 400 Radeon™ Cores on die @ 600 MHz. The A6's have 320 @ 443 MHz and the A4's have 160 @ 600 MHz or 443 MHz. There are 2 A8's listed, 3 A6's and 2 A4's. The two A8's have 4 x86 cores, two of the A6's have 4 x86 cores and one model has 3. The A4's are dual core x86.

If the problem in yielding these Llano parts is in the GPU portion, then you'd expect the A8's to have the worst yields...

[HTPC_Fan]

Well, here are a couple of the latest updates on availability for the A8-3800. Anyone want to start a pool?

AMD AD3800OJGXBOX A8 X4-3800 QC FM1 UPGA 2400MHZ 65W BOX - BLT Catalog
11-11-2011


Notebooks, Projectors - PC SuperStore
11/04/2011

[HTPC_Fan]

Supply of AMD Llano APU unlikely to recover until Trinity arrives
Monica Chen, Taipei; Joseph Tsai, DIGITIMES [Monday 3 October 2011]
http://www.digitimes.com/print/a20111003PD212.html

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AMD started suffering from Llano APU supply shortages in July due to the yield issues and the company originally expected the supply status to return to normal in September. However, judging from the current situation, the sources believe the company's supply volume is unlikely to meet client demand through the end of 2011.

The sources estimated that the yield rate issue should be resolved in 2012, when Trinity launches.

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[SKYMTL]

Ouch. With Trinity only coming in Q3-Q4 of next year, that spells trouble for AMD.