GA-P35-DS3L OC Time!

[SugarJ]

Originally Posted by Prof. Dr. Silver

A I see SugarJ's time at 9m 14.813 and mine only does 13m 06.640! Wow....and then I realize he didn't finish the run yet! So SugarJ...could you please post one of those runs? Actually post them both, but see if you could run them at 4GHz...that would be nice for comparison....

Ouch...actually...if you check out loop 15 in SugarJ's run of 32M you'll see he's at 9m 14.813....now if you look at my loop 15 you'll see 8m 02.140. His CPU is running faster but my mem is running faster. It looks like memory makes a HUGE difference here....Any comments?

BTW...I love my board....!!!

I'll re-run that superPi tonight, I had orthos running for 45 seconds too to get the temps maxed. I know it will do better. I'll also run them at 445 fsb for you to do a direct comparison. And I'm going to try to tighten up my memory timings, rated at 5-4-4-15, backed them off to make sure they weren't an issue.

And I love this board too. If I had pc8500 memory I'd be pushing this processor much harder. But I'm not done yet. Everest reports my vDimm at 2.05, gonna push it up another notch into the red zone.

Cheers,
Gord

[SugarJ]

Originally Posted by 1Tanker

Yeah it does make a difference, but not that much. You're running 50MHz faster, and tighter timings(though he's got 50MHz CPU on you)...but i suspect there's more to it than that. I'd like to see his memory subtimings(and how "tweaked"...or "untweaked" his system is...background services,etc.).

Your 1M time looks spot-on for 4GHz... so i think his is a little slow... versus yours being fast/GHz. *** no offense intended to either of you's***

No problem 1Tanker. I ran orthos for 45 sec to see what temps I'd hit at 100% utilization, screwed up my times on SuperPi. All my memory subtimings are on auto. I'm very rookie when o.c.ing memory. My last board I kept memory at stock frequencies. You want a task manager screenshot for background services?

[Prof. Dr. Silver]

Originally Posted by SugarJ

I'll re-run that superPi tonight, I had orthos running for 45 seconds too to get the temps maxed. I know it will do better. I'll also run them at 445 fsb for you to do a direct comparison. And I'm going to try to tighten up my memory timings, rated at 5-4-4-15, backed them off to make sure they weren't an issue.

And I love this board too. If I had pc8500 memory I'd be pushing this processor much harder. But I'm not done yet. Everest reports my vDimm at 2.05, gonna push it up another notch into the red zone.

Cheers,
Gord

Aha...so in the end you might be beating my butt! LOL But why FSB 445? My RAM is on the +0.5 now....

As for a task manager shot...that's not really necessary, it is most important though that when you run these benchies....you switch off whatever you don't need! Try to make XP as lean as possible....tweak the crap out of it...and you'll see millisecs make the difference.

[BALISTX]

On my next install of XP I'm going to use nlite as you tell it to only install the components of XP you want, but you can set it to do an unassisted install, it will load all your device drivers for you as well.

[SugarJ]

Originally Posted by Prof. Dr. Silver

Aha...so in the end you might be beating my butt! LOL But why FSB 445? My RAM is on the +0.5 now....

As for a task manager shot...that's not really necessary, it is most important though that when you run these benchies....you switch off whatever you don't need! Try to make XP as lean as possible....tweak the crap out of it...and you'll see millisecs make the difference.

Why 445 FSBx9? to get a 4.00 GHZ run to do a comparison for you against the E6850. You wanted that, didn't you? I'd try to run 500X8, but I don't think my PC6400 memory will get there.

Task manager - 1tanker wanted to know how tweaked my XP was. The simple answer is not at all. I had AVG, G15 software, VMware services, other stuff running in system tray. I'll kill all those processes before I do my superPi runs tonight. Then you can do a 4Ghz comparison of the e8400 vs e6850.

I'm glad I got 4ghz out of this chip/mem combo, I'd be ecstatic if I got up to 4.2 with a $30 HSF.

[1Tanker]

Yeah, i run my system with 16 services at idle... and the bench makes 17. I don't have a printer on my machine, so no spooler..etc.

[SugarJ]

Super PI 32m 4Ghz run


By sugarjonesing

Super PI 32M 4.1Ghz


By sugarjonesing

I tried tightening memory timings but then wasn't stable. 455x9 is the highest stable I've been able to hit so far.

Wow, doesn't memory make a big difference here. Just looked back at Prof's timings. I know this processor is faster clock for clock, but his system is significantly faster for SuperPi.

[Prof. Dr. Silver]

SUGARJ.....PLEASE fix your imageshack links so we can compare!!!! w00000t!!! LOL....hurry!

Well I guess it's the memory running faster....and then XP...I'll post a taskmanager shot in a different/new thread later when I come home...to compare tweaked versions of XP...

Or if I may give you some advice now...MAKE SURE.....all unnecessary items are shutdown....no AV, no Spyware, no printer stuff....no screensavers, no system/program trays.....and so on.

Also make sure your not running taskmanager/CPU-Z/Everest/Sandra/Core Temp or any of that stuff to 'monitor' your benchmarking....you should switch that on later after you finish your run.

[sswilson]

You can also host your images here using the vb image tag at the top.... :)

[SugarJ]

Thanks for the image hosting hint.

I cleaned out all the unnecessary processes I could. Only thing running was CPU-Z.






Let me know if these aren't legible. The 4.0 Ghz run was 14:24.375, the 4.1 was 14:10.361.

Random reboots are usually vCore related, are they not?

[Prof. Dr. Silver]

Great scores SugarJ...maybe time to get some 1066MHz??? LOL I think your memory is what is holding you back here.
Like I said before...DO NOT RUN ANYTHING besides your benchmarks....every CPU-Z instance is 5Mb of your memory. That's 10 I count right there! LOL

And random reboots are usually a sign of your memory timings being too tight. Could also be that your vCore is one notch too low.

[SugarJ]

Thanks Prof. I know my memory is what's holding me back. Maybe next paycheck.Maybe not, Lindsey says I spend too much money on "computer junk".

Saw your post about Task Manager tweaking, thought you were somehow getting it from my machine, looked almost exactly like mine (the before shot anyway). I'll try to get it to look like your after shot before I do some runs for HWbot.

Cheers,
"Sugar" Jones

If you're wondering where the Sugar came from, it's a nickname from my rugby team. I had a great nite at practice a few years back, scored 3 tries in a row, someone yelled "Your moves are so sweet we should call you Sugar!" It stuck.

[enaberif]

Originally Posted by SugarJ

Thanks Prof. I know my memory is what's holding me back. Maybe next paycheck.Maybe not, Lindsey says I spend too much money on "computer junk".

Saw your post about Task Manager tweaking, thought you were somehow getting it from my machine, looked almost exactly like mine (the before shot anyway). I'll try to get it to look like your after shot before I do some runs for HWbot.

Cheers,
"Sugar" Jones

If you're wondering where the Sugar came from, it's a nickname from my rugby team. I had a great nite at practice a few years back, scored 3 tries in a row, someone yelled "Your moves are so sweet we should call you Sugar!" It stuck.

I don't think so much its your memory cause I ran initial 32m test on my machine and I was being your times by a few margins and I only run DDR2-800 memory and its running at 846.

[SugarJ]

Originally Posted by enaberif

I don't think so much its your memory cause I ran initial 32m test on my machine and I was being your times by a few margins and I only run DDR2-800 memory and its running at 846.

Ya, but your timings are 4-4-4-12, mine's rated at 5-4-4-15 but can't run under 5-5-5-16 yet at 900mhz, still trying though. Prof's got pc2-8500 working at 5-4-4-8. I think that's why his e6850 is outperforming my E8400 (both running at 4.0 GHz).

I'm going to try bumping vCore up tonight. I'm set at 1.4 in bios, but reads at 1.34. So I'll try 1.45 in bios to try to get 1.40 on board. That's the max I'm comfortable pushing it to right now.

Mind you, the system is stable at 455x9 right now, folding like mad for 18 hours and max coretemp at 45. Maybe I should be happy at 4.1 Ghz. Nope.

[enaberif]

Originally Posted by SugarJ

Ya, but your timings are 4-4-4-12, mine's rated at 5-4-4-15 but can't run under 5-5-5-16 yet at 900mhz, still trying though. Prof's got pc2-8500 working at 5-4-4-8. I think that's why his e6850 is outperforming my E8400 (both running at 4.0 GHz).

I'm going to try bumping vCore up tonight. I'm set at 1.4 in bios, but reads at 1.34. So I'll try 1.45 in bios to try to get 1.40 on board. That's the max I'm comfortable pushing it to right now.

Mind you, the system is stable at 455x9 right now, folding like mad for 18 hours and max coretemp at 45. Maybe I should be happy at 4.1 Ghz. Nope.

Mine are rated for 4-4-4-10 but I'm running them at 5-6-6-15 @ 2.2v :)
My e8400 is running at 4.3ghz @ 486 x 9 iirc.