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bonanza2000 March 20, 2011 11:36 AM

1155 vs 1156 vs 1366 - thoughts?
 
Here's the short course. I have built a 1366/i7-930 machine that wicked fast and I love. And I have built 2 1156/i3-550 machines for the office that are nice and relatively fast. The price difference was $1800 for the first one and $800 for each of the other two.

My kid has a slow POS computer and I thought it would be a good learning experience to build a computer together.

Chip prices don't seem to be that different between socket platforms. I am vaguely aware of some issues with the sandy bridge 1155 set but I am assuming it is fixed with the new B3 (?) boards. And some reports that temps are lower and power use lower with the 1155 chips.

If you were me, which socket type would you go with (1155 / 1156 / 1366) and which CPU type would you go with ( i3 / i5 / i7 )? I guess I am kind of stuck on the intel chips as I have had good luck with them. I don't want to say that price is an issue but I am not sure she really needs an $1800 computer, but maybe something faster than the i3 machines I built.

Anyone with some opinions?

_dangtx_ March 20, 2011 11:41 AM

yup.

ok,depends what your kid needs it for.

i3 1156 is really nice, if you want more go straight to a i5 1155 2500k if he ocs if not 2400.

the i3 2100 1155 is a decent performer as well.

dma0991 March 20, 2011 11:59 AM

Socket 1366 is for enthusiasts who wants to overclock and e-penor :whistle: I'd say that the X58 systems are not worth considering as it has a lot of features that your child does not need.

Socket 1156 is good but considering what you can get for almost the same price with SB it makes a whole lot less attractive especially when the price did not drop much when SB came into the market. Not to mention that it is about the end of life for the Socket 1156 and I do not expect there would be anymore new processor models made for this socket.

Socket 1155 however is a good choice. The B3 stepping boards are out already and the Cougar Point chipset is fixed. I would say getting a Core i5 2500K + P67 motherboard would be a good choice as it has 4 strong physical cores and a good overclocking potential. With that your kid could learn how to overclock as well. I've owned computers that cannot be overclocked at all and it gets boring very fast. Kinda fun to tinker with the settings a little and see things load a little bit faster. OC is a drug :ph34r:

bonanza2000 March 20, 2011 12:07 PM

you guys make some good points. I was kind of leaning toward 1155 SB because it is newer and a little more energy efficient and there didn't seem to be a price benefit from the 1156. Still didn't want any problems if the SB demons weren't excised. I don't think there will be any overclocking as she is more into drawing than tinkering.

Any more opinions and thoughts out there? Bring em on! :clap:

Currently trolling for a case online - looking at the Cooler Master 430. Needs to be under 19.5 inches to slide in the desk area.

_dangtx_ March 20, 2011 12:10 PM

the only way id get an i3 1156 over 1155 since prices are so close,indeed,were when you start looking at mobos(more expensive) and the fact that current
1155 i3's dont overclock..
why? a simple bus upping in bios will make your cheaper 1156 setup perform better,and be cheaper. easy as pie.

Desiato March 20, 2011 01:16 PM

if buying new, 1155 makes the most sense. If buying used, you can find some great deals on 1156 and 1366 boards and processors.

Another consideration may be memory configuraton: 4/8GB vs 6/12GB. If she uses memory hungry apps like photoshop, this may matter.

Bond007 March 20, 2011 01:29 PM

IMO. Unless there is a specific need for triple channel memory then forget about 1366. If you want a budget build that you will OC then grab a cheap 1156 i3. Other then those 2 scenarios 1155 is for you. If you plan on OCing then the only real choice is an i5 2500k. If you will not OC then pick between the i3 2100 and i5 2400 depending on budget. Hope my opinion helps.

bonanza2000 March 20, 2011 02:04 PM

I like the way you guys are thinking. I just haven't been around the computer block enough to know what is the best way to go. There is a definite speed difference between a 1366 / i7-930 and a 1156 / i3-550. Not that the last one is slow per say, just slower than the other. I guess ultimately it is about how much money I want to throw at it.

I will say this, since I found Hardware Canucks and I started building these little buggers, I have been having a lot of fun. Learning a lot. Makes me smile. :biggrin:

Also thinking about usb 3.0. The annoying thing about my 1366 set up is the USB 3.0 outputs are on the back of the motherboard where the keyboard and mouse connectors are so I have had to route the cable from the back of the computer, back into the computer to hook up to the HAF X front panel connectors. Are there any mother boards where you can get USB 3.0 off the board and not the back panel that hangs outside the computer? Not sure if I am explaining that well.

bonanza2000 March 20, 2011 03:47 PM

So remind me again what the difference is between the H61, H67, and P67 chipsets on the 1155 boards?

_dangtx_ March 20, 2011 04:46 PM

h means you can use video on the cpu but no overclock for k series(unless they crack the bioses)


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