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Old March 21, 2011, 02:08 AM
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For the PSU I suggest going for other brands besides CM. I think FSP would suit you better and that rig does not need 600W of power. A 450-500W PSU will suffice. These are my suggestions but you can go with other brands like Seasonic, Antec, PC Power & Cooling, XFX and Silverstone just to name a few.

NCIX.com - FSP Power Supply SAGA+500R 450W

Newegg.com - FSP Group SAGA+ 500R 500W ATX2.2 Power Supply

It is better to pair your Core i5 2400 with a H67 motherboard. The processor can't overclock at all and you don't need a P67 motherboard. With a P67 motherboard you lose the IGP capabilities. You can try this instead which costs only half the price of the Gigabyte mentioned earlier.

NCIX.com - MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) H67 mATX

NCIX.com - Buy ASUS P8H67-M LX <REV 3.0> mATX

With the money saved from these changes you could get a better casing or just change the GTS450 to a GTX460 instead. The price difference is not huge either but the performance is. Either that or just settle with the Intel HD2000 inside the Core i5 2400 first, it is a very usable IGP for work and web browsing.

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Old March 21, 2011, 02:59 AM
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As Dan said, the M600 isn't that worthy.
As for a video card, this looks much better:
NCIX.com - Buy MSI GeForce GTX 460 Fermi Cyclone OC 725MHZ 768MB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI DX11 PCI-E Video Card - MSI/MicroStar - N460GTX Cyclone768D5/OC - in Canada
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Old March 21, 2011, 04:54 AM
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Oh man, I think people missed the bus on this thread. Do what most parents / guys do.. put your system in a cheap case and give it to your daughter, then buy yourself a new kickass sandy bridge setup.

I'm quite surprised that hasn't been said yet.

Option #2, is to go 1156/1366 and buy the PC for your daughter used from a good Ebay seller, or the HWC BST area.. with people upgrading to sandy bridge, there will be a lot of people selling off the 1156/1366 platforums in perfectly good, useable condition.

Lots of learning experiences to be had from the transfer / building the second computer.
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Lots of great feedback here. That's what I love about you guys! A wealth of knowledge. I'll keep digging and post a final component build. I think around $1200 is a good price point for a quality mid-speed machine so I will be trying to stick around that price point. Thanks for all the advice.
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is there any point to upgrade to SB if I got an i7-9XX system?
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Old March 23, 2011, 10:37 AM
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@skydealseeker - that is a very good question, since my computer is just that and I feel it is superfast. I can't see that there would be much difference for me. I might know more when I put this one together but it would be hard to compare the 1366/i7-930/ 6GB RAM with the 1155/i5-550 / 4 GB RAM. I will say this, while I like the 1156 / i3 -540s / 4 GB RAM machines that I built, I don't think I would buy another i3 chip. I'd spend the extra money and get something faster. I'll just have to see how this build goes.
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Not really necessary to upgrade every time a new hardware comes out. You will never be able to keep up with it. SB does offer significant improvement in performance and on par or better than the X58 so most users get the feeling that they must change to keep up.

But when X68 platform SB-E comes out then many would feel that their SB rig is lacking something because obviously the SB-E is going to outperform the SB range just like how you would see LGA1366 outperforms the LGA1156. Soon you'll see that LGA2011 will outperform LGA1155 and the vicious cycle continues.

To me average lifespan of a rig should be about 3-5 years. So I think upgrading a LGA1366 to a LGA1155 is totally unnecessary and a waste of money for a little bit more of performance.
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Old March 23, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Not really necessary to upgrade every time a new hardware comes out. You will never be able to keep up with it. SB does offer significant improvement in performance and on par or better than the X58 so most users get the feeling that they must change to keep up.

But when X68 platform SB-E comes out then many would feel that their SB rig is lacking something because obviously the SB-E is going to outperform the SB range just like how you would see LGA1366 outperforms the LGA1156. Soon you'll see that LGA2011 will outperform LGA1155 and the vicious cycle continues.

To me average lifespan of a rig should be about 3-5 years. So I think upgrading a LGA1366 to a LGA1155 is totally unnecessary and a waste of money for a little bit more of performance.
This seems to be the general consensus. If you already have a 1366 setup there really is no reason to switch to 1155. But if you have an 1156 or 775 platform totally worth it.
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You can do that build much cheaper... here is what I have for you go to pricebat.ca and then pricematch any of the lowest prices that aren't from NCIX to NCIX.

CPU: i5 2300 $175.75 or 183:75 for the i5 2400
Mobo: Asus p8h67-m pro 117.99
Case: $41.29 Cm 430
Memory: Ripjaws X 4gb 1600 42.33
HDD: WD Caviar Black 500gb 43.79
PSU: Antec EarthWatts 650W 64.99
Optical Drive: The one you have there is great
This is about $505 +tax
Leaves you a whole bunch of money for a monitor and GPU
Keeping your $150 monitor you are at $740 with tax in.
Windows 7 $100 + $853 with tax

What i recommend doing is putting in a nice gtx 560ti direct CUII for $230
That makes just over $1100 which isn't bad at all

Now you have a kickass rig for your kid and you wont have to upgrade anytime soon.

For home office you can download a beta and use it for free and it's legal... Honestly home office is a ripoff there is always a beta you can get for free. Also if your kids computer already has windows 7 you can transfer the license and save some more money. You really don;t need the H50 the stock fans are more than enough and quiet enough because these CPU's run so cool.
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Well these were my final choices. No monitor yet. I have an old one and am looking for a really good deal and didn't find one yet. Been watching the ModMen series on youtube and my kid is going to try to paint the case. That should be interesting.

O.S. - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 $99.00
Case - Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower Computer Case 59.99
PSU - Corsair HX Series CMPSU-650HX 119.99
Processor - Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) $189.99
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-H67MA-UD2H-B3 LGA 1155 129.99
RAM - Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333 CMX8GX3M2A1333C9 94.99
Video Card - MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II SOC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 149.99
Keyboard/Mouse - Logitech MK200 Black USB Mouse and Keyboard Combo $24.99
Hard Drive #1 - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB SATA 6.0Gb/s 59.99
DVD Drive #1 - Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS $19.99

total is $948.91 after rebates it is $893.91

Also getting some Bamboo Craft USB tablet thing that apparently let you draw. Looked cool. Thanks for all the advice and help. Ya'll rock.
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