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Old December 21, 2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Which AMD processor should I get.

Here are the choices.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+(nonBE) 89W AM2 2.6GHz 2000FSB 2x512K 90NM (Windsor F2 Stepping) - $117.54
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ 65W AM2 2.6GHz 2000FSB 2x1MB 90NM (Windsor F3 Stepping) - $127.34
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ 89W AM2 2.8GHZ 2000FSB 2x1MB 90NM (Windsor F3 Stepping) - $149.93
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 125W AM2 3.0GHz 2000FSB 2x1MB 90NM (Windsor F3 Stepping) - $168.11


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Old December 21, 2007, 08:26 PM
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Old December 22, 2007, 01:40 AM
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I know it's not on the list, but I would get the 6400+ BE now that the price on it has dropped.

At first I was going to go with the 6000+ as well, because I didn't see the price of the 6400+ being worth it. The difference was something like $70 for a modest 200 MHz speed bump. But now the 6400+ BE is under $200. The difference between the two now, is only about $17 at DirectCanada.
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Old December 22, 2007, 09:20 AM
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The only thing with the 6400+ BE is it does not come with a HSF so by the time you add one say $20 for the AC64 Pro that would put the prices goes from $185.58 to $205.58. Not to mention the processor is pretty much at it's wall 3.2GHz and I won't be able to push it that much more. It might be a more viable solution for me to get the 5000+ BE for $129.99 along with the AC64 Pro for $20 for a total of $149.99. I could probably get 3.0-3.2 out of it. The only issue I have with the 5000+ BE is the 512K of L2 cache.

I have checked the AMDGeeks.net OC databse and one person got their 5000+ BE to 3.2GHz using the same 570 SLI chipset that I will be using. I noticed however the only increased the multiplier to 14 and uped the frontside bus 16MHz.

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When Tom's Hardware did their article on the 5000+ BE the highest they were able to get the processor was to 3.30 stable by increasing the vcore to 1.45 and the power consumption went from 65W to 108W.

Our own Lithotech did a review on the 5000+ BE and was able to get it to 3.0GHz stable at 1.40 vcore.

The 5000+ BE with it's unlocked multiplier and a posibility to reach 3.0GHz and be under the price of the 6000+ even with the aftermarket cooler and consume less power while doing it, is very tempting indeed.
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Old December 22, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Yes that looks like a good option-but you really need must hit 3ghz with an 8800GT otherwise you could bottleneck the card if its anything like the GTX I had with the opteron 165.

Anything at and above 2.8 was a big improvement when I was using the 165. Having an unlocked multi is a great option and a performance heatsink is never a bad thing
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Wow AMD are allot cheaper then Intels
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Old December 22, 2007, 10:24 AM
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Yep gotta love price cuts
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Sure AMD is no longer the speed king but they a very viable solution even today. their stuff is grate, forgetting the quad core.

All my budget and mid range systems are amd.
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If your concerned about your electric bill, get the 5200+. Those things will also put less stress on your mobos VRMs, making them run cooler as well. Also its worth considering that slower chips are found to overclock well. That just my 2.26783082 yen (2 cents USD).

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Tough call, but my 5000+ BE does 3.2GHz on 1.4V by just changing the multi to 16. The extra L2 is pretty much meaningless for gaming as well on the Windsors. I will admit that I'd get a 5600+ F3 if I could, but I got my BE for $100 so I'm sticking with it for awhile.
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