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Old December 14, 2007, 05:56 AM
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im looking to build a computer for a friend that is on a very low budget

hey wanted tobe in the 500-550 range with everything (case, psu mobo, cpu, ram, dvd burner ...)

he is doing alot of cad and 3d drawing (solidworks ans inventor) and he plays once a while, he also use math progrtam such has matlab, matcad ...

i was looking @ DC and could build him a nice system for 530$

Asus case
Asus m2n-e sli (didnt wanted to pick a mobo with onboard video)
amd x2 4000+
2x 1gb corsair ddr667
arctic cooling freezer 64 pro
160gb hdd
dvd burner
floppy with card reader
fortron saga 450w
7600GT

i doubt i could do better then this

any suggestion on the part choice?
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Old December 14, 2007, 09:55 AM
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Why the sli mobo? You are paying extra for that. I'd get a non-sli mobo in the $100 range, then you can upgrade the 7600 to a ati 3850 or an 8800 gt maybe.

And look around, there are some killer deals on ram like 2gb of low latency ddr800 for $30.
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Old December 14, 2007, 09:57 AM
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Also, don't bother with the artic cooler. this is a budget system and the stock hsf is plenty good enough for the 65mn 4000 x2. I've built several system with this cpu and they run in the 30-50c range on the stock cooler.
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Old December 14, 2007, 10:24 AM
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Really the only reason why you would need the Artic Cooler is if you mean to do some heavy overclocking, otherwise the stuff that comes pre-applied is good enough. Plus you should probably look around for a bit better ram, as if I remember correctly, 3d rendering and the such is a huge ram whore, just look at how much photoshop can take! And as for the sli board, I don't really think he will need SLI, considering what he is using the rig for, it will just be a feature left alone, and with that you could shave off say $50 easily, which could go towards upgrading things like ram or the GPU.

Oh, and for example on ram, NCIX.com - Buy OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit - OCZ2G8002GK In Canada.

On sale for 49.99, and goes with a 25.00 mail in rebate, so you could get some nice ram for 24.99.

Plus, you really should have posted the price of each item, it would have made it much easier to say "well, this is priced at this, bla bla bla". Also, what case are you getting? All you said was an Asus case, which makes it once again harder to help with prices.
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Old December 14, 2007, 10:39 AM
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im looking to build a computer for a friend that is on a very low budget

hey wanted tobe in the 500-550 range with everything (case, psu mobo, cpu, ram, dvd burner ...)

he is doing alot of cad and 3d drawing (solidworks ans inventor) and he plays once a while, he also use math progrtam such has matlab, matcad ...

i was looking @ DC and could build him a nice system for 530$

Asus case
Asus m2n-e sli (didnt wanted to pick a mobo with onboard video)
amd x2 4000+
2x 1gb corsair ddr667
arctic cooling freezer 64 pro
160gb hdd
dvd burner
floppy with card reader
fortron saga 450w
7600GT

i doubt i could do better then this

any suggestion on the part choice?
If I were you I would use NCIX because of the price match feature which means you can use shopbot.ca and find the lowest price then enter it as your pricematch at NCIX.com.

Direct Canada and NCIX.com are owned by the same company so no need to worry about that.

Now. You will get as many opinions as their are people who post here so take all this with a grain of salt. This is what would do. I would make these changes.

For a case i would suggest the CoolerMAster cm690. Great cooling, great looking and cheap. about $50 - $60.

Asus M3a $98 - This is a brand new mobo that uses the AM2+ which means he could upgrade to a phenom in the future. Yes you can use a Phenom cpu in a am2 board but the HT will downgrade from 5k MHZ to 1k MHZ. This is backwards compatible as well so the 64 x2 4000+ is no problem.

Dump the CPU cooler the stock HSF is plenty as others have suggested.

As far as the PSU goes I will wait for SKYMTL to see this thread as he is the PSU master here at HWC.

With that extra cash I saved from dumping the cpu cooler I would grab a Radeon x1950 Pro. $112 price match. This card has 256 bit handling versus the 7600GTs 128 bit handling. In short this card will crush a 7600gt. $22 more then the 7600GT but well worth it, you won't be sorry.

That's it. Everything else looked fine. Good luck
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Old December 14, 2007, 10:40 AM
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It's all good but here's the changes I would make to get better bang for your buck. With the money you save on the MB & PSU you can put it towards a better GPU. That Biostar is an AWESOME OCer and probably THE budget AM2 board to get. And the Sparkle is one of SKY's most recommended budget PSUs. I've used all these parts on a budget build for a friend myself

MB
Biostar TF550 - $90
NCIX.com - Buy Biostar TForce 550 SE ATX AM2 Nforce 550 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 4PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard - TFORCE550 SE In Canada.

GPU
XFX 7900GS - $150 AMIR
NCIX.com - Buy XFX GeForce 7900GS XT 480MHZ 256MB 256BIT 1.4GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I TV Out Video Card - PVT71PUDE3 In Canada.

PSU
Sparkle 400W - $39
NCIX.com - Buy Sparkle Power SPI ATX-400PN 400W ATX12V 20/24PIN Power Supply W/ 120MM Fan P4 AMD Ready OEM - ATX-400-PN-B In Canada.

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Looking at the previous post I'd agree with the x1950 instead of the 7900GS I picked ;)
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Old December 14, 2007, 11:51 AM
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Why the 7900gs?

that card is almost 1/2 the speed and and old last gen technology for the same price as the 3850. Silly.
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haha, way to edit Thunderball

screw the 1950 too. the 3850 is still faster. old power hungry heat blasting tech.

keep up with the times dudes
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Old December 14, 2007, 01:13 PM
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I guess I'm just not used to new cards being so cheap I forget about them. I'm perfectly up w/the times just a little out of sorts from this cold Squee. You could easily just have posted a recommendation for the 3850 as opposed to singling me out. And my edit was already there when you flmaed me the 1st time. Way to read Squee.
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Whoa there big fella, not flaming, not at all. My wry attempt at humor and your cold stuffy head have caused us a misunderstanding :help: I like you man.

That said, i think those of us who dispense advice on here need to be careful and up to date. The people asking are going to assume we know what we are talking about and that because we aren't trying to sell them anything they tend to trust our advice.

That said also, it's not like the guy would have wound up with a lemon with either the x1950 or the 7900gs. Good cards for the price.
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