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Old May 28, 2010, 09:38 AM
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Nice job guys, these CPUs are a great idea. I expected the Ln2 clocks to be a bit better than a regular clarkie because of the unlocked option but in this case it doesnt look like losing PI efficiency with lower QPI is worth using the higher multi. You never know though, maybe some chips with go to that next level and higher CPU clocks and that will outweigh QPI. I guess unlocked is only important when you are maxing out due to BCLK limitation on the CPU or board. Very interesting nonetheless. :)
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Old May 28, 2010, 10:02 AM
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Thanks for the review.

Not having dealt with OC on the i7/i5 chips, I had initially thought that unlocked multis wouldn't really make a difference, but then I thought back to the fight many folks have with hitting a OC wall with them and thought differently.

For those of us not completely familiar with OC'ing on these platforms, does it make the OC process a lot less painful?

Pricing seems about right for what it's supposed to counter, but I'm not sure if it will capture the hearts of those inclined towards the 1055T / 1090T crowd.... the big deal with those chips is the 6 real cores as opposed to the unlocked multipliers on the 1090T (I chose the "black edition" more for the reported 200 - 300Mhz headroom than the unlocked multi).

That said.... it's great to see Intel responding to the budget minded enthusiast market. As much as we like to think that our concerns drive the market, our market share when compared to OEM / Standard Retail is so small that our opinion only really matters as a function of marketing to the masses.
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Old May 28, 2010, 10:16 AM
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I wouldnt say it would make OC easier unless they introduce a lower end CPU that is unlocked. Unlocked multi would be an advantage if you are at BCLK limit (likely with sub zero) but that is about it as far as I can see.
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Old May 28, 2010, 10:19 AM
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BCLK is mostly what I was wondering about. Every time I've seen somebody talking about an OC wall they seem to be suggesting that it's BCLK that's holding them back, so I'm assuming that an unlocked multi would remove that issue all together.
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so you folks think pricing is not aggressive enough for its intended audience?
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Old May 28, 2010, 10:23 AM
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so you folks think pricing is not aggressive enough for its intended audience?
For somebody who's currently looking at 1055T/1090T?

I don't think so as there were already Intel chips on the market for less than these are being offered for. If I'm reading the review correctly, the dual core might be interesting because of the new (possibly better clocking) stepping, but it's basically a $40 premium for an unlocked core on an already existing chip.
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allright.

do you think people looking to build a budget buil will ook at these(or the 40 dollar cheaper one) vs a phenom II build?

i get questions on builds, and usually people want to go intel because (insert reason here) but when they give you a budget and try to cram in everything, usually for under 750$-1k budgets amd takes the casho
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I have both an 860 and a 661 and in my opinion 860 is still the best bang for the buck for that price range. 875 is going to kill 870 but it is nearly $100 more than 860 for probably the same OC result. I might consider a 655 over a 660 or 661 but even still I would need some evidence that it would get me some extra mhz to bother paying the extra $40 or so. Just my 2 cents from an enthusiast perspective, not sure what a mainstream user will think about unlocked.
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Old May 28, 2010, 10:44 AM
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If the same budget was previously pointing towards AMD, I doubt the numbers will crunch any better with these chips thrown into the mix. These chips aren't really in the same market as folks who're putting a system together, they're marketed towards enthusiasts who're going to be overclocking on a budget.

AFAIC it's still going to come down to the same budget vrs performance trade-offs that were present prior to the release of these chips.
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Oh crap. Goes head to head with AMD's Black Edition CPUs. Anyone here regretting getting a Thuban? If I was in that position, I wouldn't have many regrets as I'm fine with overclocking using the BCLK. It's not like the unlocked multiplier brings in a much higher overclock than the CPUs with locked multipliers.

Intel?s Core i5-655K & Core i7-875K: Overclocked and Analyzed - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

^ That's a huge jump in power consumption... But then these are engineering samples. I hope the retail ones will be better.

@sswilson. That's true. But $40 premium for the unlocked multiplier... How well does the locked multiplier Clarkdales with the new stepping overclock?
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