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Old October 7, 2007, 05:21 AM
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Need a little feed back on this budget system I am building.

Parts I am useing from my old Pc (For now, will upgrade at later date)

Pc Case - very good case, very well vented for air flow, a bit on the cheap end. Will upgrade to antec 900 very soon.
PSU - Enermax NoiseTaker 2 485w TVCore 32Amps
Video Card - Pny 8600 GT 256 ddr3

NEW PC PARTS

MoBo
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R Atx LGA775 Conroe P35 DDR2 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 Sata Raid Sound Gblan Motherboard - DirectCanada

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.00GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail - DirectCanada

Memory
Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 Cl 4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory - DirectCanada

Also getting
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro LGA775 2500RPM 45CFM - DirectCanada

My Question to ev1 is will I have issues with my power supply? I know if I overclock i may run into a few problems where my voltage will limit my overclocking. But on a stable stand point am I looking at problems right outa the gate or will my power supply hold up till I can scratch up the cash.

Also some feed back on this budget system would be nice.

Note: not included in this is the hard drive. segate 320mb also need to buy.

I want to buy this from directcanada.com because of the free shipping

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Old October 7, 2007, 06:42 AM
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The PSU should not be a problem on the short term, your rig should not draw that much voltage and amps. For your case, why not eventually go for the Antec Sonata III, with its Earthwatts PSU?

For the board, do you need RAID? If not, go for the GA-P35-DS3L - same board, minus the RAID. And with that money saved, can you buy an E6320 / E6420, instead of the E4400? Much better in term of performance.

Ram is fine and dandy (great price!), same for the HSF - that little cooler is amazing. Mine is cooling an E6400 (which is folding 24/7) running @ 3.36. Highest temp seen was 57C.

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Old October 7, 2007, 07:37 AM
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Well I did like the option on having raid. But now that I think of it I probly wouldn't use it any ways lol.

Now speaking about the CPU the e6320 and e6420 are a bit outa my price range (on the only site i found it on ncix+ shiping). And Directcanada.com doesn't even list them, also my local Pc store doesn't carry them and would only do a special order for thoesany. and it would cost me even more

But Directcanada.com does have the new e6550 that could be in my price range
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.33GHZ 1333FSB 4MB Retail - DirectCanada

any 1 have a e6550 that they can give some insight on? I read this review of 3 e6550 cpus and for overclocking they really are limited because of tight multiplier settings. Also goes on to state that the E4400 and e4500 have a higher multiplier that can with the right set up be pushed to better values.
intel core 2 duo e6550 review and overclocking

as for the Case I just don't like the astectics of the sonata series yes it would be a good deal for case and PSU but I like the looks and design of the 900 much better.

So I've kinda narrowed down what I am looking at here is

IF I go with a e4400 or e4500 I save a fair bit of money and get a decent system with the potential to be a even better system through overclocking

or

spend some cash now and go for a newer chipset in the e6550 and a very nice system still keeping it within a my price range and with free shipping from directcanada.com but posibly not be able to overclock it at all or very little.

I guess it comes down to personal preference of what I want out of this system. save money now and then feel obligated to overclock to meet newer system specs. or take a chance on a newer chipset and see where it can take me.....

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Old October 7, 2007, 07:40 AM
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I'd think that PSU would run everything perfectly fine. Even overclocked. The 8600GT doesn't draw much power. If you got a new video card though, then you'd probably want a new PSU too.

Antec 900 does have great cooling. Mines currently torn apart as I'm doing some modifications to it though.

I agree with 3.0charlie though, if you don't need RAID, get the DS3L and a faster CPU. E6320/6420/6550 etc.
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Old October 7, 2007, 08:32 AM
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Something to keep in mind with the 900 case is the length of PSU cables.

Some folks love the case, and some not so much... but the most common complaint is that their PSU cables aren't long enough because of the bottom mount.

As far as processors go.... what about this (or the next one up @ $225) one?

Intel Xeon 3065 Dual Core Processor 2.33GHZ LGA775 4MB 1333FSB Retail Processor
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but posibly not be able to overclock it at all or very little.
From the E6550 link you gave:

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Let us directly pass to the overclock results , the first tested processors without increase in vcore proved to be completely stable and operational at the FSB frequency equal to 480 MHz!
A 1Ghz increase with no Vcore adjustment is pretty good in my book! What OC are you looking at? I honestly that choosing that CPU (or sswilson's choice) would be an issue for oc'ing.

As for the case, I totally agree with you: that choice is absolutely personal.

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Old October 7, 2007, 12:13 PM
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Please please please DO NOT GO for the 900 as there is a new case out by Coolermaster that totally beats it out and is like $30 cheaper.

Check out the Coolermaster CM 690... it can hold like 6 120mm or 140mm fans if you like! AND it can fit a gtx card.

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...e=COOLERMASTER

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Old October 7, 2007, 02:55 PM
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For some dumb reason I thought the E6550 was 2.66 ghz so when I was looking at that review the one that would only run at like 3010 mhz I was thinking wow thats not alot.

But now that I have woken up and relooked at that review..... wow this e6550 has very nice potential.

that coolmaster is very nice I never noticed it before and it seems to have extentions for shortish cableing... which I don't need cause my cables now are freaking long, but thats a very nice case for the price..It's even cheaper on directcanada.com and free shipping

So I am going to go with this set up

Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.33GHZ 1333FSB 4MB Retail - DirectCanada

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Atx LGA775 P35 1333FSB 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound Gblan Motherboard - DirectCanada

Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 Cl 4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory - DirectCanada

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro LGA775 2500RPM 45CFM - DirectCanada

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 3GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive - DirectCanada

grand total of $555.80 with some Artic silver for my current POS rig

With the emermax 485W PSU and the PNY 8600 GT to round it all out.

one other question I have is... Will I need to flash the bios on the mobo for it to support the 1333fsb? or will I be alright? cause I've seen a few post that some people had to flash the bios on some boards to be able for it to run with the 1333fsb cpu's.

Case will have to wait since I am spending 60$ more on the cpu then I had in my budget.
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I always update my BIOS to the latest when I setup a computer. You probably don't have to though.
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the reason I am asking is the person who posted, had to update the bios to get the board to even boot with the 1333fsb cpu. so they had to boot the board with a another cpu flash the bios then change the cpu to the 1333fsb one....

I only have a few amd rigs kicking around so getting my hands on a intel cpu is going to be a bit difficult.

i'll try to find out what board the guy was useing
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