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Old January 17, 2010, 01:38 PM
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Actually I have done very affordable builds for people using Biostar Mobo"s and I have yet to see any complaint"s.
Recent Biostar boards are pretty decent. Older ones like the OP is looking at are not.
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Old January 17, 2010, 04:38 PM
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don't buy those cheap thing , you gone have only problem with the bios, drivers, virus, BSOD

get a mini-mac instead
let me make this a little clearer.. i am in negative $$$ ... this is an old PC and its an Emachine.. i just want a simple fix... and to my knowledge the serial controller also controls the universal SERIAL bus.. or USB.. and the PS/2 controller is also dead.. if it was just a serial port like that i would say screw it its fine but i need USB or PS/2 cause thats what keyboards and mice connect to..

and i also thought about the mac-mini... cept its 50 dollars VS 600.. :-) ...

simple question.. which one of the two POS boards are better XD and i went with the intel chipset
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Old January 17, 2010, 04:44 PM
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and to my knowledge the serial controller also controls the universal SERIAL bus.. or USB..
Then you don't know very much, because RS-232 serial ports and USB ports are completely different interfaces and have nothing to do with each other. You could have gotten a much better motherboard for $50.
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Old January 17, 2010, 06:03 PM
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Then you don't know very much, because RS-232 serial ports and USB ports are completely different interfaces and have nothing to do with each other. You could have gotten a much better motherboard for $50.
.. today they use the same chip to control both of them..
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Old January 17, 2010, 06:17 PM
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.. today they use the same chip to control both of them..
no way my friend the keyboard and the serial port ( rs232) are controlled by the I/O chip. the US by the Southbridge at least it still like that on my Maximus III, all true , not sure I have the rs232 on it
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.. today they use the same chip to control both of them..
Nope, like MarkOne pointed out, the serial ports are controlled by a dedicated chip, whereas the USB ports are provided by a controller built into the southbridge. USB and RS-232 are completely different interfaces and are not controlled by the same thing. If that were the case, then how are there so many motherboards out there that have USB ports but not RS-232 ports?
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My old motherboard doesn't have RS232 port, just a DB9 port.
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Old January 17, 2010, 07:20 PM
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My old motherboard doesn't have RS232 port, just a DB9 port.
he is testing us good try
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Old January 18, 2010, 06:01 AM
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Nope, like MarkOne pointed out, the serial ports are controlled by a dedicated chip, whereas the USB ports are provided by a controller built into the southbridge. USB and RS-232 are completely different interfaces and are not controlled by the same thing. If that were the case, then how are there so many motherboards out there that have USB ports but not RS-232 ports?
really?? i thought the south bridge just controlled all the serial and USB.. none the less an important part of the motherboard is damaged.. the south bridge... also explains why it got extremely hot even when the north bridge wasn't really hot.. even in my rig i haven't felt the SB get that hot.. .. and i googled it.. the Super I/O controls the serial, Parallel, and keyboard and mouse ports... the SB controls IDE, SATA, USB, Ethernet, Audio codec, Cmos, and PCI slots
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. also explains why it got extremely hot even when the north bridge wasn't really hot..

Why I will loose my time to argue on that ... get a new board...
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