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Old November 4, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Default i5+P55 or i7+X58 for gaming?

Hi folks, I'm planning on building a new rig and would like to know which would be best for gaming and basic use. For gaming I would prefer one that would last for awhile.

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Old November 4, 2009, 03:56 PM
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Welllllllllllll i7+x58 > i5+P55 But it will cost you more for an x58 rig. You can SLI/Crossfire at x16/x16 on x58 aswell although the extra bandwidth over x8/x8 doesn't make a huge difference. x58 you can tri-sli and quad(?). You could also get an 1156 i7 which includes HyperThreading. How much are you planning on spending?
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Depends on your budget. x58>p55 in all aspects, except price. p55 mobo's are generally cheaper, and the cheapest i5 is 100 bux cheaper than the cheapest i7 (retail prices).

x58 is the big brother, it is more powerful in all aspects, and is high-end, meaning the new 6-core sandy bridges will probably be released for lga1366. x58 also has a bunch more pcie lanes (like 36 or something... I'm too lazy to google), and the p55 only has like 16 or 20 (correct me if I'm wrong), which is a potential bottleneck for high-end gpu's.

Both will last a while lol, they will work for decades to come as long as you don't smoke or abuse it. x58 mobo's are more durable in general imo, they are more OC friendly and won't blow up your cpu like a few p55 mobo's did when extremely OCed (that was because of cheap mobo power phases). The p55 also runs cooler with only one tiny heatsink, but that doesn't necessarily mean it can achieve a higher bclk.

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wow fast replies, awesome. so I was looking to evga's p55 micro matx motherboard. would it be a good choice or should I go for an atx mobo? and is there really no difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8?
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A full atx board will have more robust power circuitry usually, but the difference between a high end m-atx P55 and a high end standard ATX P55 won't affect you unless you're doing extreme overclocking.
With an m-atx motherboard, you cannot however have SLI/CF and add in an expansion card. (audio, hardware raid, whatever)

Also, m-atx boards just look weird in full tower cases, so get something smaller if you go m-atx.
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Depends on your budget. x58>p55 in all aspects, except price. p55 mobo's are generally cheaper, and the cheapest i5 is 100 bux cheaper than the cheapest i7 (retail prices).

x58 is the big brother, it is more powerful in all aspects, and is high-end, meaning the new 6-core sandy bridges will probably be released for lga1366. x58 also has a bunch more pcie lanes (like 36 or something... I'm too lazy to google), and the p55 only has like 16 or 20 (correct me if I'm wrong), which is a potential bottleneck for high-end gpu's.

Both will last a while lol, they will work for decades to come as long as you don't smoke or abuse it. x58 mobo's are more durable in general imo, they are more OC friendly and won't blow up your cpu like a few p55 mobo's did when extremely OCed (that was because of cheap mobo power phases). The p55 also runs cooler with only one tiny heatsink, but that doesn't necessarily mean it can achieve a higher bclk.

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Actually it was the socket design on the motherboards tat used the Foxconn socket. It's actually the pins not making good contact with the pads. AnandTech: P55 Extreme Overclockers: Check your sockets!

That's why I ordered an EVGA P55 FTW Here's a thread where someone kind enough to fill me in on that or I probably would have bought an Asus/Gigabyte: 1156 Motherboard Suggestions

It's not like it's a HUGE deal unless your doing EXTREME OC'ing with crazy volts. If you can afford to go 1366, then why not? If you're looking to go with that EVGA matx that would be a good choice, evga won't let you down. You just won't be able to OC as well as you could on a full ATX board. And yes, there's not much of a difference between 16/16 and 8/8. Don't have a link to any charts or articles or anything but I've seen them before lol.
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And yes, there's not much of a difference between 16/16 and 8/8. Don't have a link to any charts or articles or anything but I've seen them before lol.


The rest of the performance summary and the article (done by TechPowerUp) can be found here. Although I believe it's all single card setups, I'm not sure how much difference there is (if any) for crossfire/sli.
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ive got a vanilla asus p7p55d board with an i5 and im tickled pink. I have a rock stable 4.2ghz clock speed and it runs surprisingly cool for a 1.4ghz overclock. Im just using this board until the hydra chipset comes out so i can get full 32 laned crossfire from a pair of 5870s. As of right now there isnt a game im aware of that doesnt score 130fps roughly @ 1900x1200 full tilt except crysis,which i never played anyways lol.
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is there really no difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8?
Technically there is, and into the future with more and more powerful cards there WILL be, but as it is, with current, and even soon to be current(5970/Femi) cards, any performance degrading will be minimal.

There are other reasons however to go with X58 and the 48x PCI-e lanes it provides, however its more for the workstation/server market reasoning and programs than home/gamer use.
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Actually it was the socket design on the motherboards tat used the Foxconn socket. It's actually the pins not making good contact with the pads. AnandTech: P55 Extreme Overclockers: Check your sockets!

That's why I ordered an EVGA P55 FTW Here's a thread where someone kind enough to fill me in on that or I probably would have bought an Asus/Gigabyte: 1156 Motherboard Suggestions

It's not like it's a HUGE deal unless your doing EXTREME OC'ing with crazy volts. If you can afford to go 1366, then why not? If you're looking to go with that EVGA matx that would be a good choice, evga won't let you down. You just won't be able to OC as well as you could on a full ATX board. And yes, there's not much of a difference between 16/16 and 8/8. Don't have a link to any charts or articles or anything but I've seen them before lol.
Glad to hear you went with the FTW mobo, especially since it has a good Lotes socket. I noticed your thread has died since I asked Linus@NCIX about whether the MSI board does actually have a Lotes socket now.
Would be great to hear from the HWC staff reviewers about this issue as they have done some excellent reviews on the P55 mobos and I would like to hear their opinion of this.
Let us know how it's going with the EVGA mobo, and it's Lotes socket. My Foxconn-equipped Asus board is still running, and I haven't smelled anything burning. Yet
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