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and in the question of 120 price difference for new tech thats not a question to me but a future regret.
+1 well said ginger, if thats all it costs there is no question you should go with it.
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Thanks for all your answer guys, only one thing to remember, if i go crossfire with an Q9550 it will be on my ud3p
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Old April 9, 2009, 04:51 PM
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If your going to be dropping some cash on a Q9550 - you may want to wait for a little animal from AMD to pop it's head up in the near future


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Woah, dude, dude. Hold the phone, man! Did I just hear someone say AMD? WTF is an AMD?

Pfftt...AMD... Yeah, right. Intel is rolling out 32nm ALREADY, and these "AMD" dudes are just perfecting their 45nm's. Yeah, they OC like hell. But you can take an OC'ed Q9550 or something and it'll beat it.
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I say with all confidence that AMD, with their AM3 lineup and recent Phenom 2's are providing some heated competition for Intel.

Unfortunately they are battling last gen technology and it is come to little to late as you pointed out. Also with Corei7, Intel is expanding their top end line-up even further.

We will see what the next couple months have in store for AMD releases - but truly- In the mid priced CPU category ($150-$350), AMD is beginning to come out ahead.
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a Q9400 beats out any AMD offering right now so I wouldnt even worry about AMD BUT q9550s are suppose to drop in price before the summer so it may be worth wait although I know that suprise special at NCIX is great.
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a Q9400 beats out any AMD offering right now so I wouldnt even worry about AMD BUT q9550s are suppose to drop in price before the summer so it may be worth wait although I know that suprise special at NCIX is great.
Have to looked at any Phenom 2 X4 940 numbers?
The P2X4 940 thoroughly trounces the 9400, and in many cases the 9550. The 955 is to be release April 20th and looks to compete with the $1,700 QX9770... for a meager $375+-
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Yes I have I looked into both CPUs on both platforms and the 940 was released to compete directly with the Q9400 and its still like 5% slower clock for clock... The phenom II processors still arent up to C2 performance, their close but not quite there, a Q6600 will still stomp a P2 940 as well and is a bit cheaper.. AMD came closer this time but still failed in every respect other then the x3 720 BE which is a beautifull CPU and hits the price performance mark perfectly. I would never recommend an x4 940 BE over an intel cpu unless you could get it for under $250 and even then id say spend the little extra and get a Q9550 and spank the poo out of that AMD.
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Yes I have I looked into both CPUs on both platforms and the 940 was released to compete directly with the Q9400 and its still like 5% slower clock for clock... The phenom II processors still arent up to C2 performance, their close but not quite there, a Q6600 will still stomp a P2 940 as well and is a bit cheaper.. AMD came closer this time but still failed in every respect other then the x3 720 BE which is a beautifull CPU and hits the price performance mark perfectly. I would never recommend an x4 940 BE over an intel cpu unless you could get it for under $250 and even then id say spend the little extra and get a Q9550 and spank the poo out of that AMD.

Comparing a CPU clock for clock is not an accurate measurement. It has to be in terms of a price comparison or feature comparison.

The days of old where Intel was pumping out 3.6Ghz P4's to compete with A64's running at 2.4GHz - not an accurate matchup.

Having benched endlessly many CPU's as well as looking at other reputable sources - Aside from certain gaming applications which fail to properly utilize a CPU's feature set - The Phenom 2 X4 series is an extremely competitive CPU.

Price at $275 - the same as the Q9400, Without question, AMD over the other as you get more performance across a far wider range of applications.
The Q9550 is more expensive (though not by much) - a matchup between those would warrant a win for Intel, but again - with the 945 and 955 upcoming releases in the same price range - and given the current tight loss of the P940 to the Q9550, I would expect to see the new AMD CPU's be a better suggestion over ALL of Intel's C2Q lineup
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There was no tight loss to the Q9550 the Q9550 overclocks well over 4ghz and is no competition to the 940, and the Q9400 is either equal or faster then the 940 at stock clocks when overclocked to max it takes over on alot of benchmarks and a good P45 motherboard is cheaper then a decent 790x/gx motherboard right now so the price vs performance is pretty similar, I would not go so far as to say the 940 wins any awards here and the new CPUs are going to have a hard time keeping up with the C2Qs as well as I highly doubt they offer much more over the 940 besides extra stock clocks and DDR3 compatability.

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The current reigning Phenom II X4 champion, the AM2+-based 940 released back in January, offers a nice core speed of 3 GHz, 2 MB (4x 512 KB) of L2 cache, 6 MB of L3 cache, and a TDP of 125W. However, come next month, the 955 will become the top dog of the quad-core Phenom II family, offering a faster clock speed of 3.2 GHz--a 200 MHz increase over the previous 940 processor. Additionally, the new processor will also bring to the table AM3 socket compatibility, and support for dual channel DDR2 and DDR3 memory. However, everything else--L2, L3, TDP and 45nm processing--will remain unchanged.
And therefor I have a hard time seeing the new CPUs taking over the Q9550 or even the Q9450 as they are just faster CPUs all around. The P2 CPUs just arent as fast as the C2Q ones right now thats fact not assumption. Also from what I read the P955 is supose to release at the price of 250 euros, which is roughly $400 cnd which does not put it any where near the price vs performance crowns.
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