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Old February 8, 2010, 01:29 PM
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Right, imperfections in the equipment is still an imperfection in the recording. I didn't say one was better, both have their cons. No analog equipment, recording or playback, is perfect so therefore analog still has imperfections. In theory, it can offer perfect music quality, but in theory (with a perfect sampling rate) so can digital. Both are imperfect, and thus its open to debate.

I don't have time to find a better source, but Analog recording vs. digital recording - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The article doesn't say one way or another, it mentions the debate thereof.


Regarding your edit: It's more accurately recorded perhaps, but the quality of playback is much more depending on the quality of the system you have. The fundamental flaws in digital recordings are in the recording process, the fundamental flaws of analog are in its playback. Or so I've found anyways.
The thing is that digital signals will still be affected by the quality of the equipment in addition to the signal conversion errors. It's basically the same process, except digital audio has the extra conversion step. Anyway, I'm only arguing this from a theoretical perspective. I don't own an analog audio system, all of my music is in digital format, and it's good enough for me . This discussion is just for the fun of it.
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well I hate to tell you with the power of computer now a days there a good reason everything has gone digital. all very good points i am no sound engineer but i know several like i said i built a rig for the S engineer out at casino rama and all he was on about was digital this and digital that analog has gone the way of the doe doe bird his words not mine and this was 4 or 5 years ago.
I mean almost all the music i listen to is new so this is the reason i like digital. the hate crackling and popping. jmo never facts who the hell i am i to tell anyone anything.
just thought seeing records was funny is all back to topic very nice setup on the double monitor and tv
The reason digital audio is used nowadays is not because of quality, it's because of simplicity. It's much easier to import an audio file into Protools and master it than it is to cut and splice a bunch of magnetic tapes.
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Old February 8, 2010, 01:39 PM
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The thing is that digital signals will still be affected by the quality of the equipment in addition to the signal conversion errors. It's basically the same process, except digital audio has the extra conversion step. Anyway, I'm only arguing this from a theoretical perspective. I don't own an analog audio system, all of my music is in digital format, and it's good enough for me . This discussion is just for the fun of it.

The reason digital audio is used nowadays is not because of quality, it's because of simplicity. It's much easier to import an audio file into Protools and master it than it is to cut and splice a bunch of magnetic tapes.
Same, I enjoy stretching my legs now and again but I'm not out for any blood. I got my fair share of information on this as I used to work with someone who was deadset into analog, to the point that she was seeking ways to get current music put onto records. As such it was fun poking her buttons.

I agree though that the switch was made out of a convenience standpoint, but I believe they also thought they could provide a more reliable medium to the masses. For instance, cassettes seemed like a very poor implementation of analog but were their best means for analog portability. Nowdays, I'm sure the technology would've progressed alot further for analog, though I'm not sure if it could ever have competed in terms convenience. As a result, its now considered a 'dead' format to all but the enthusiasts.

With all that off topicing (sorry), I now feel obliged to post a bit of my updated desk arrangement. I'll get some pics tonight.
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You both have very good points, interesting reading; I tend to agree with the statement about listening to music using equipment from the era in which it was played / recorded.

I own both analog and digital equipment at home. Today's music goes you know where - your typical run-of-the-mill Denon / Klipsch setup. But I can't listen to A Great Gig In the Sky on a digital system... and I do own Dark Side on both vinyl (EMI Pro-Use master) and Ultradisc CD. FYI, my analog components are a Naim Audio amp, a Linn Sondek LP12 table and Linn Kans MK I loudspeakers. I'll spare you the details of the arm and needle...
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so basically what your saying is if it was analog to begin with then analog equipment is what you should listen to it on and vice verse.
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Yes, that is my opinion; it is how I listen to music. Another, less old example? The Metallica concert that was recorded in San Francisco with the SF Orchestra. I have both analog and digital versions - a world of difference between them. Digital is the King here...
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Yes, that is my opinion; it is how I listen to music. Another, less old example? The Metallica concert that was recorded in San Francisco with the SF Orchestra. I have both analog and digital versions - a world of difference between them. Digital is the King here...
I pretty much do the same thing, I have a large collection of digital. But also a pretty decent collection of analog like Billy Joel, and Cat Stevens etc and those I prefer in that form.

But regarding the comment about analog popping and crackling... if your getting lots of that. There is something wrong with the setup. High end Vinyl (yes there are different qualities of vinyl) plus quality turntable/arm/cart does not have that.
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Had that 17" monitor sitting there for a month or two, finally hooked it up today with a just BARELY long enough cable.



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here my current setup
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here my current setup
I believe there's a pig trapped inside your case, which looks very evil, like it wants to eat your video card.
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I believe there's a pig trapped inside your case, which looks very evil, like it wants to eat your video card.
mmmm....bacon flavoured video card.
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