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Old January 3, 2012, 11:47 AM
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I would like to get some help from someone in Montreal area or around. My issue is that my mobo only has a PCIE X8 slot and I would like to have it opened as in open ended, to install a regular X16 videocard. I don't know if I will keep the system or not, but if I keep I would like to install a decent videocard (9800gt or better) for some occasional gaming. For the moment my options are to install a PCIE X16 card into a X1 to X16 slot extender, which would need a Low profile videocard (I have a Radeon 4350 and a 4550, both are low profile ready and I have the low profile bracket), or to purchase either a PCIE X1 videocard (GT430 or GT520) or a simple PCI videocard, same preference. The cards will have to be at least nVidia generation 6 or Ati generation 2000, as they have native Win7 drivers, Win7 being the OS installed. Present video chip is an Ati ES1000 which is a Rage Pro, there are no Win7 drivers for this chip, only a Win Server 2008 simple driver that I got from the mobo vendor and it does not open access to brightness and other video parameters. So if someone is a good Dremel handler or has any other tool that can make easy work from the wall of a pci connector, that would be nice.

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Many thanks to 3.0charlie that gave me a helping hand with this issue. He found some spare time to help a fellow folder. I told him that I accept full responsibility if he ruins the board. He didn't, using a dremel he opened the port, but then we ran into an issue with the system not booting due to videocard failing, (1 long beep and 8 short beeps). Probably I also need to short the pins for videocard detection, that is very easy to do, i just need some copper wire thin enough to enter on the orifices of the X8 port. In the same effort we also proved that a PCI card can function flawlessly in a PCI X port, as an old Radeon 9200 booted fine when installed in a PCI-X port. This opens the gate of installing some GT430s on the PCI-X ports.
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Old January 8, 2012, 11:19 AM
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Old January 8, 2012, 11:28 AM
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Hey, no problem. It was my pleasure.
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Heh... dunno if I'd trust myself with a dremmel that close to the PCB of a motherboard.... :)

Am I reading this right that the job was to cut away the rear part of a PCIe slot?
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Yup, it was. But the slot internal pins stick out so ever slightly, and I damaged 2-3 pins while in the process of cutting the slot end. Conclusion? Don't use a Dremel to cut the end. Use a sharp knife, and slowly remove material.
But the slot shoudl still be functional with a 1x GPU, which was the "if all fails" back-up plan for the PCI-e slot.
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the procedure left to be done is called down-plugging a card in a smaller link connector, such as an x16 card in an x1 connector. It is explained here : Whitepixel breaks 28.6 billion password/sec - Zorinaq Now, all I would need is a thin copper wire to short the 2 pins and it should work. If it will work, I will probably slam the 9800GX2 in there and call it a day.
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would be better just de-solder slot if the new slot pitch same on MB
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simpler than this thing you mean? to de-solder the port?
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going that route your loosing data lines hence x1 VS x16
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Old January 12, 2012, 08:49 PM
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that trick did not work either, so, last solution, slot extender, transforms PCIE X1 into PCIE X16 but you need a low profile card, I got a radeon 4550 with 256 MB DDR3 (I am thinking of trying some gaming after all), UPS tracking number was showing "Adverse weather" this morning so i guess I'll get it tomorrow. Will let you know how it will act for gaming when i install the whole system. Will post some pics too. I will need a soundcard too as the system does not have that either.
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