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Old March 12, 2008, 09:11 PM
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Glad things are working out ok- I missed the post about the accident until now- sorry about the shitty luck.
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Decided not to bother with a separate worklog, but since I'm throwing things together now, figured I'd throw a few pics up of all those nice parts I photographed earlier. Same parts as before, just now going into the MM Horizon case. Interesting case, I have to say, but after hearing so many people rave about Mountain Mods' cases, I think I may have had slightly too-high expectations.

Certainly, it's a great case, but that doesn't mean there aren't a few areas I would have liked to see improved. The aluminum is a little lighter gauger than I'd like to see, especially around the PSU mounting plates. Admittedly, my main basis for comparison are my two Antec cases, both of which I would have used as a stepping stool without hesitation. While the front panel is properly drilled for a TC rad, the rear fan spacing doesn't fit ANY radiator, being somewhat between both the HWLabs and Swiftech designs - I had to grind the sides off the holes for the MCR220 to fit. A PA120.2 would have been a lost cause without completely new holes. Finally, the hard drive mounting system has no vibration isolation, and very little support if the HDD's are mounted vertically. On another note, the Horizon design effectively blocks off the bottom half the case once the motherboard is installed, although I can't rightly hold that against MM. Comes with the design, and I know my video card with it's giant slab of copper on it is quite grateful.

At this point, I've fully leak-tested the system and verified that it posts without trouble. Still a lot of cable management to do - this case relies on cubic footage rather than finesse in that department - but I'll be installing XP and software tomorrow.
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The motherboard with all blocks installed. I'm using the Koolance compression fittings on the chipset/mosfet blocks, for a cleaner, more compact look. Also being used is the backplate from my Koolance CPU-330 waterblock (which is, frankly, the only good part of that waterblock's assembly), although the Fusion is too tall for the mounting springs to be used. I'm using 1/2" tubing for the CPU/GPU loop, and 3/8" for the NB/Mosfet loop.
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Preliminary installation of drives. Both radiators are functioning as intakes, so that the second doesn't get superheated air from the first. This will make the case strongly positive-pressured, with the mesh filters on all intake fans minimizing dust accumulation inside, and all the air exhausting through the top of the case. S-Flex F-series fans are used throughout this case, except for the two Noctua P12's on the rear rad where nobody will see them.
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I've shifted the motherboard support forwards, so that it acts as a shroud for the PSU's modular face. Gotta give props for the finish on the Ultra X3's casing! You can see the cabling is already busy and bunched up in front of the PSU. I'll have to see what I can do about that in the future...
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The front of the case. Each intake hole has a combination of a wire grill and a steel mesh filter behind it. Going for the subdued look, although photos really don't do justice to the black wrinkle paint on this case. The bay on the right is using a Scythe Kama Bay unit.
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This is a top-down into the case, with all tubing routed and the system leak-testing (although not all cables attached). I've shifted the top case panel to the side, and used it to mount a Swiftech rad/res unit to handle the chipset/mosfet cooling duties. The DB-1 pump is simply attached with velcro, although getting the right angle to keep the tubing from kinking was tricky. The Tygon is nice, but I got the middle-thickness walled stuff - wish I'd gotten the thickest walled stuff now.

I would have liked to have one of the radiators in-between the CPU and video card, but the additional tubing required would have been excessive, for very little benefit. The Petra-topped MCP350 is mounted directly under the EK res with a double G1/4 fitting, and the whole assembly is sitting on a wad of Petra's gel-stuff. It's a quiet pump to begin with, but it comes darn close to being inaudible as set up here.

This isn't exactly in-depth coverage, nor particularly organized, and I apologize. Right now, I'm just trying to get this thing up and running finally, snapping pictures whenever I remember.
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Wise Choice with the Ultra PSU! It's a great unit. Hope you didn't pay too much, most places overcharge for it
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Thats going to be one fine setup--water-cooling the MOSFET too
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Great log so far- thanks for sharing- I appreciate the honest take on the case
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Alright, I finally got off my ass and finished things up. I've had most of it together for awhile, but once I had it working, I just stopped worrying about how nice it looked. Kind of like building a kit car, I think. Once it runs, you start asking yourself "Do I really NEED body panels? Or a paint job? Or floorboards...?"

This thing is running three radiators (PA120.3 in front, MCR-220 at back, MCR-120res on side), and they're all intakes, in an attempt to minimize any stacking effects (having the same air pass through two radiators). Incidentally, while the front holes are spaced for Thermochill rads, the hole spacing on the back fans is 17mm. HWL rads use 15mm, while Swiftech's use 19mm. .

Anyway, since all the rads were intakes, there was hardly any exhaust happening, and the remaining panel was a window, with no holes. So I decided to make my own panel. I had a 200mm Antec fan kicking around (from the P190), and unlike the rest of their tricool shite, it's actually a pretty solid unit. So I ordered in one more, did a little woodwork, and...
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It's a little glossier than I'd like, but I wanted some sort of protectant on it, and I don't know how to duplicate MM's wrinkle-coat look.

Beyond that, it was just a matter of wiring everything in, and figuring out how to make the T-balancer work. For a such a nice, colourful manual, it leaves out a remarkable amount of useful information (i.e. proper USB pin hookup). Fortunately, the interface is pretty intuitive, and it's been very cooperative and is currently undervolting eight of the case fans to acceptable noise levels.

So it's done, and working great. The two 200mm exhaust fans do an excellent job and pulling heated air off the motherboard. I had to put a little 40mm fan on the SB, which pulled temps down to about 39 degrees, but with the top on, the temps go right down to about 34 degrees. Might be able to ditch the little 40mm bugger altogether...
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Fully closed up, the case is pretty much as unobtrusive as something that size can be. There's still some spaghetti wiring visible, but most of it is crammed underneath the motherboard. Might see I can't clean that up a little more, but it's not high priority.
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So that's the end of "Project P190". Come for the Antec case, stay for the Mountain Mod case!
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Love that case.

I think a MM Horizon or something similar will be my next case...

The horizontal mobo tray is sweet.
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Oh yeah, almost forgot. That Primochill Liquid Utopia stuff? I haven't seen ANY reviews of this stuff anywhere, so I figure I'll throw up my $0.02 about it.

The stuff I got was the "Blood-red" colour. I added it in about 2ml at a time, and by the time the 10ml tube was half-done, the colour intensity was maxed out.

Here's a picture from early on, when the stuff was new in the system.
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Here's a picture from now.
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In both cases, the camera flash is making the colours a little more intense than they are in real life, but aside from that, the picture match RL fairly well. It can be seen that there's been a definite degradation of colour over the last month or two. And this is with 1/2" tubing, so the colour would be even paler with 3/8" or thinner tubing. The other possibility is that the dye isn't degrading, but that the Tygon is going cloudy... which isn't exactly a rousing compliment towards this stuff either. I'll likely be pulling the system apart this summer, so I guess we'll see for certain then.

Also visible is a faint ring around the reservoir, but since I'm technically running about 50% over their recommended concentration, I'm don't know if I can legitimately complain about that or not. But just the same, I have a pretty big volume of liquid in this system, so the concentration can't be THAT much over the guidelines. So at best, this stuff is easy to OD on; at worst, it'll leave residue behind regardless.

Thus, I'm not sure I could recommend this stuff to anyone else. At the very least, the Liquid Utopia dye doesn't seem like anything to write home about.

The Swiftech Hydrx on the other hand, is doing just fine. Now if it only came in other colours...
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The other possibility is that the dye isn't degrading, but that the Tygon is going cloudy... which isn't exactly a rousing compliment towards this stuff either. I'll likely be pulling the system apart this summer, so I guess we'll see for certain then.
Yeah well my clearflex went cloudy and that's only using DI water! Went cloudy at about the same rate in two independent loops. After the loops were running for about 3 weeks I thought I was having a algae outbreak and put some copper sulphate (same as PT Nuke) in the loops and no change. Oddly I didn't think to look at the reservoirs which are Swiftech MCRES's. Both of those as well as the coolant are perfectly crystal clear so it's definitely just the tubing going cloudy on it's own.
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Same cloudyness using the Clearflex, the Tygon and some Home Depot stuff in the same loop. Used Hydrx first, then changed the whole loop for DI. Same result for both - and during both runs, no white stuff inside the MicroRes...
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