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I sent a M.O. and a paypal payment to a seller on another forum and never received the goods! Am I pretty much screwed?
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The M.O is irreversible, but the paypal payment is not. That being said, you are screwed out of the M.O payment for sure. However, you can still do a chargeback on your paypal account and at least get those funds back.


Why don't you post this on the forums where the transaction took place. Like if you did it on Redflagdeals, they have a specific section for scammers/warnings.
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The M.O is irreversible, but the paypal payment is not. That being said, you are screwed out of the M.O payment for sure. However, you can still do a chargeback on your paypal account and at least get those funds back.


Why don't you post this on the forums where the transaction took place. Like if you did it on Redflagdeals, they have a specific section for scammers/warnings.
I did, just getting feedback, what should I do? How does the paypal reversal work?
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Log into your Paypal account and file a claim. There should be a section with either "transaction dispute" or "file a claim". You basically file a case against the recipient of the funds and paypal automatically ceases the funds in the recipients account. It then takes 3-5 days for the funds to be reversed back into your account at no charge.

But the Money Order is definitely irreversible. Even if it's still in the mail and the guy hasn't cashed it yet. Since it's not a check, you actually had to pay the money at the time the Money Order was created. So it's basically like sending the person cash.
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Log into your Paypal account and file a claim. There should be a section with either "transaction dispute" or "file a claim". You basically file a case against the recipient of the funds and paypal automatically ceases the funds in the recipients account. It then takes 3-5 days for the funds to be reversed back into your account at no charge.

But the Money Order is definitely irreversible. Even if it's still in the mail and the guy hasn't cashed it yet. Since it's not a check, you actually had to pay the money at the time the Money Order was created. So it's basically like sending the person cash.
So does paypal give me the money back from their pockets!? Because I doubt the moneys would still be in the sellers account.
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So does paypal give me the money back from their pockets!? Because I doubt the moneys would still be in the sellers account.
No, they don't give you money of their own to cover the transaction. If the seller had $200 in his account and you sent him $150, meaning he now has $350. Even if he spent that specific $150 and only has $200 or less in his account. They cease the amount of the payment you sent him. I believe they can also withdraw the amount from his bank account and cease use of the paypal account all together until the situation is resolved.

Just file the claim ASAP and see what happens. I never use paypal so I'm not 100% sure on how it all works. Like if they take money from his bank account or if they cover the amount if it's not available in his account.
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When I contacted the police they said they can't do anything because it's a low amount, I don't think $800 is a low amount! Is this normal!?
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When I contacted the police they said they can't do anything because it's a low amount, I don't think $800 is a low amount! Is this normal!?
Police have to worry about much more important things. Like murder cases, fraud and other theft cases that amount to thousands of dollars. So for them $800 is pocket change. They will be spending 4x that trying to solve case for you.

Not too mention the mass amount of paper work they would have to go through just to get your money back.

So ya, $800 isn't a lot. They usually don't bother with anything to do with theft unless the criminal has already been caught (i.e supermarket theft). But if they have to chase the guy, the amount needs to exceed well over $1000.... usually about $3000-5000.

Post this on RFD in the scammers/warnings section. There are people who can either help you catch this guy directly. Or that can give you ways of retrieving your money. Like contacting fraud agencies or possible the RCMP.

How much did you lose via Paypal? Was it like half MO and half Paypal.

Also, what did you buy and from what forums. Post all this on RFD... lots of people who are good at cracking down on scammers.
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