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chrisk February 20, 2010 10:10 AM

Auzen Bravura, or another card to suggest?
Hey all;
I had (have...on loan to someone else) an Asus Xonar DX sound card, and was pretty happy with it. The music quality was not as good to me as some of the Creative cards I had, but was better than onboard sound. I also did not like the fact that the DX required a power cable, creating extra clutter in the case.

I am looking for a new sound card. Here are the things I am looking for in order of importance:

1. PCI-E
2. Great sound quality for music. Will output to 5.1 speakers using analog jacks (green, orange, black jacks)
3. No additional power (ie. floppy, molex, etc) needed.
4. Low profile maybe**

**I mention low profile, because the card is going in this rig:

You can see the while PCI-E 16x slot right above the tuner I have installed in the old PCI slot at the bottom. I am concerned that a full sized, or larger sound card will be impeded by the 90 degree barb for the video card.

I would be happy if the sound card was not low-profile, and would clear that barb no problems, and allow me to install without having to remove the video card.

Here is another look at the mobo without all the cards:

So far, I have found this video card:
Canada Computers - Sound Cards : Auzen X-Fi Bravura 7.1 PCI Express (Retail Box) . , more info here: Auzen X-Fi Bravura from Auzentech, Inc. : World First soundcards for Music, HTPC, and Gaming.

Any thoughts on that card, its sound quality, or possible better solutions? My only concern about that card so for is that it might be a pain to install with that 90 degree barb in the way.

Jackquelegs February 20, 2010 10:58 AM

Auzentech Forte >>>>>>>>> Bravura

chrisk February 20, 2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Jackquelegs (Post 336708)
Auzentech Forte >>>>>>>>> Bravura

I like the low profile. Now on my very short list. Thanks.

Are there other reasons why this is better?

Will that serial to analog io adapter affect sound quality to my 5.1 analog speaker setup? (see below)

Edge February 20, 2010 11:17 AM

I just got the Forte and I like it very much. It sounds way better than my Creative card that it replaced. I also have it installed on a ASUS P6T. I have it plugged into the bottom most PCIe slot. I also have two video cards (4870X2 + 4870) in my case but I'm not sure how far down that water block outlet on yours is. I would measure your clearance and compare it to the sound card measurements. The Forte is low profile.

chrisk February 20, 2010 11:21 AM

I am thinking that the Forte is a better long-term investment. The low-profile might make it easier to sell, or reuse in the future for any possible HTPC.

Looking for it in stock...seems hard to find locally.

Am I really being too picky worrying about the possible loss of quality using that serial adapter?

ZZLEE February 20, 2010 11:24 AM

Newegg.ca - Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional 70SB088600002 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card - Sound Cards

PCI slot, Divers are iffy,

( never heard one , Don't hsve it )

lowfat February 20, 2010 11:44 AM

Are you gaming w/ the machine? If yes, I don't suggest the Bravura, as it uses a software based X-Fi chip. Actually I can't suggest the Bravura at all. The fact that all opamps are user replaceable but the DAC's used are still lower quality than both the Prelude & Forte.

It really is a shame you want no external power for the soundcard. That actually is done to clean up the power going to the soundcard. It should elimate noise. Since you don't want this, you are elimination all Xonar cards, and by it likely the best multichannel card out there for music/movies. The Xonar D2X.

And since you need PCIe, you can't use the Prelude which is Auzen's highest quality multichannel card. This leaving your only real choice is the Forte. It is a great card for 2 channel or headphones, but the rest fo the multichannel DAC's are lower quality than the fronts.

Jackquelegs February 20, 2010 12:05 PM

I've had the Forte for a while, the adapter isn't a factor that needs minding :thumb:

chrisk November 30, 2010 03:07 PM

I held off on getting the sound card until now (gpu upgrades for folding....).

Looks like the Forte is not available anywhere at the moment, and I was hoping to pick one up this weekend (Canada Computers, NCIX, or Infonec don't seem to have them).

I appreciate all the help earlier guys. If I see a Forte I may still pull the trigger on it this weekend, but they seem rare now.

So, I am looking at possibly the Xonar D2X. This has a power connector (which I stated earlier I did not want), but I am willing to bend on that. The only thing that bothers me about that purchase is that I liked the sound from my old Audigy 2 ZS better than the DX I had, but from what I hear the D2X is better, but who knows. The X-Fi looks OK, but then there are Creative's drivers, and my general dislike of the company (but my like of the sound from their cards).

So before I head out and get something in a couple of days, here are my updated requirements:

1. PCI-E
2. 5.1 or 7.1 analog
3. Primarily music
4. Don't care about headphones, optical, etc.

Thanks again and I'll be picking up something this weekend...

JD November 30, 2010 03:19 PM

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Bravura fits perfectly fine. I have one and no complaints.

I have it above my 5870 with EK fullcover. Just have to pull the GPU out of the slot first, put the sound card in, then put the GPU back. Hopefully you have some wiggle room ;)

Attached a photo, do excuse the dust :whistle:

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