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Old May 12, 2012, 10:27 AM
raghu78 raghu78 is offline
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Originally Posted by Dzzope View Post
While I'm not on the "this guy is a paid troll bandwagon" what he seems to miss being the largest point of 680's beating the crap out of 7970's was that the price and power points were so much lower on the 680 when the vast majority of these review were done.

Also.. If he cared to read some old reviews he would see that when AMD deserves it they get their Kudo's here.. as does every product I've seen reviewed here..

I've bought and buit a few GPU's and systems based mostly on reviews from here and they have matched so close that I tend to not bother with many of the sites I used to read as they were soo hit and miss you could say anything about any product and get it right more often.

Anyway, not gonna bash the guy for posting questions or criticism BUT he should really research more of your work before trying to point fingers or throw around accusations..
I have looked at hardocp and they have a good way of benchmarking with fraps recording gameplay sequences. Their BF3 results are much closer than what I see here. They do a benchmark of "Operation Swordbreaker" which is the most difficult level in the game

HARDOCP - Battlefield 3 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 Video Card Review

"BF3 performed extremely well on the GeForce GTX 670 all the way up to 2560x1600. At 2560x1600 we were able to have all the in-game quality options set to "Ultra" plus HBAO. We found FXAA provided the best image quality plus performance. However, we did push it up to 2X AA plus FXAA and performance was right on the border of being playable. Some may find that level playable, and it's impressive that a $399 video card could even achieve that setting at 2560x1600."

HARDOCP - Battlefield 3 - Sapphire HD 7970 OC Edition Video Card Review

The Out-of-Box Sapphire HD 7970 OC Edition averaged 47.3 FPS at 2560x1600 with 2X MSAA and FXAA High enabled with all other graphics options selected on the highest setting. The reference Radeon HD 7970 averaged 47 FPS at these settings, while the GeForce GTX 680 averaged 49.4 FPS. We were unable to increase AA on these three video cards to 4X MSAA because framerates dropped too low during combat creating a noticeable lag.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Review

Here I see a completely opposite view with the GTX 670 shown clearly exceeding the HD 7970 at 2560 x 1600 Ultra 4X MSAA. And guess what legitreviews, hardocp, pcper have similar views. The GTX 680 leads a ref HD 7970 at 925 Mhz slightly at 2560 x 1600 Ultra 4X MSAA but the HD 7970 and GTX 680 are similar perf at similar clocks.

Here is Eyefinity benchmarks of BF3 (gameplay sequences)

HARDOCP - Battlefield 3 - NV Surround - NVIDIA Kepler GPU GeForce GTX 680 Video Card Review
Operation swordbreaker

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2-Way SLI Surround Gaming Benchmarks - Battlefield 3 - Legit Reviews
Rock and a hard place

ASUS GeForce GTX 680 OC vs R7970 OC vs GTX 580 OC Performance Review - Battlefield 3

Nvidia's GeForce GTX 670 graphics card - The Tech Report - Page 5
Operation Guillotine

And here I see a GTX 670 defeating a HD 7970 in Eyefinity easily. It baffles me.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Review

Is benchmarking truly a science or art ? What is the point of these benchmarks if there can be so much differences between one site and the rest ? Users who have had both cards from hardocp forums like
Drangueos and xoleras say the HD 7970 OC'd ties GTX 680 OC'd at 2560 x 1600 and goes ahead at 5760 x 1080

[H]ard|Forum - View Single Post - Can a single 7970 run BF3 at 5760x1080?

As for the price argument that has subsided after AMD cut prices on HD 7970 to USD 479 and the HD 7950 to USD 399. Its a mere reflection that competition has increased when compared to the situation prior to GTX 680 release where Nvidia GTX 580 was at USD 499.

Last edited by raghu78; May 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM.
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